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Korea: Netizens' Opinions ≠ Citizens' Opinions 

a small portrait of this author Hyejin Kim · 22:44
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As the longer Afghanistan hostage situation continues, there has been increasing divergence in treatment of these issues between main stream media and netizens. Netizens complain that their opinions are not taken as citizens’ opinions.

Minoci writes,

이번 아프간 피랍사태에는 두 개의 여론이 존재한다.
대다수 저널들에서 쏟아내는, 의미없는 관습적 수사로서의 ‘국민'이 만들어내는 ‘천사표 여론'(A)이 그 하나다. 나머지 하나는 네티즌 찌질이들, 그러니까 나와 같은 ‘막가파'들이 만들어내는 ‘악마표 여론'(B) 이렇게 두 개다.물론 나는 이런 이분법적인 관점과 태도 그 자체가 정말 폭력이면서, 야만이라고 나는 생각한다.

소위 대부분의 메이저 언론사들은 그저 피랍된 동포, 내나라 국민 걱정하는 (또 다른) 국민의 목소리를 그저 ‘관념적으로' 조직해냈을 뿐이고, 이전의 관습과 관성에 의해 ‘그려려니'하면서 ‘추리'했을 뿐이다.

적어도 네티즌은 그 자체로 국민의 여론을 대표하는 최소한의 상징성을 갖는다고 추론해야 하고, 그것이 국민 여론 따로, 네티즌 여론 따로라고 생각해야 할 하등의 논리적 근거는 없다고 생각한다. 그런데 주요 언론들에서 다루는 네티즌들은 극소수의 ‘증오신자'들로 대표될 뿐이며…

About this Afghanistan hostage issue, two opinions exist.
(A) the ‘angelic opinion’ that ‘citizens,’ in the term of conventional rhetoric, hold and most media talk about. (B) the ‘demonic opinion’ of netizens who are regarded as ‘madcaps’ like me. I think this opposing attitidues and views are violent and savage.

Most major media conventionally assumed and formed how citizens are worried about those hostages as the compatriots…

At least, netizens’ opinions should be treated as representing citizens’ opinions. Citizens’ opinions and netizens’ opinions don’t have to be separate. But netizens are described as a few ‘anti-Christians’ by major media…

A question whether netizens’ opinions are citizens’ opinions has brought about more arguments about how to deal with netizens’ opinions.

오프라인으로 하는 시위나 파업은 ‘더' 중요하고, 온라인으로 글을 통해 의견을 피력하는 것은 그에 미치지 못한다 하는 입장은 오프라인과 온라인을 무리하게 구분짓게 되는 결과일 수 있을 것입니다. 출퇴근때 길막고 남들에게 피해를 주고 목소리를 크게 내고 tv나 언론에 나와야지 영향력이 있다는 것은 옳지 않다고 봅니다…

대다수가 그렇듯이 저도 온라인과 오프라인에서 의견과 주장이 일치합니다. 그런데 같은 의견이더라도 온라인에서 말하면 ‘네티즌'이라 하고, 오프라인에서는 ‘국민'이라고 하더군요. 대한민국이 온라인과 오프라인 두 개로 있습니까? 그들은 온라인을 완전히 다른 세계처럼 인식하는 것인지 궁금합니다. 만약, 그렇다면 이미, 그들에게는 안타깝게도, 현세대는 온라인과 오프라인이 vs.관계가 아니라 and.관계라는 것을 안내하고 싶습니다…

핵심은, ‘네티즌'과 ‘국민'은 동일하며, ‘네티즌의 의견'은 ‘국민의 의견'입니다. 또한, 따라서 ‘악플/악성글'은 ‘온라인'에도 있지만 ‘오프라인'에도 있습니다…

Demonstrations or strikes offline are ‘more’ important, and expressing online is not as important. This kind of perspective would bring about separating online and offline. I don’t think that blocking other people on the street, speaking loudly, and being on TV and mass media, are just influential…

Like most people, my opinions and insistence are the same on on-line and off-line. Regardless of the same opinion, if I say it on line, it's regarded as the ‘netizen’s' and if I say it off line, it's regarded as the ‘citizen’s.' Is this country divided into online and offline? It seems that online is taken as a different world. If it is, we, the current generation, want to speak out that online and offline are not ‘vs. relations' and ‘and. relations.'

My main point is that ‘netizen' and ‘citizens' are same. ‘Netizens' opinions' are ‘citizens' opinions.' Therefore ‘bad opinions/bad writings' do not just exist ‘online,' but ‘offline.'

Yong responds,

네티즌들은 정확히 말해 넷상에 접속하는 국민입니다
여기에는 넷상에 접속하는 기독교인도 응당 포함되며
그리고 네티즌을 자꾸 싸잡아 도마위에 올리는 언론인들도 포함됩니다…

넷상에 접속을 안하며 오로지 방송과 신문 언론에만 정보를 의지하는 사람들이 진실에 가까이 접근 할까요?

아니면 온오프 모든 정보에 두루 통달하는 사람들이 진실에 가까이 접근 할까요?

저도 몇년전까지는 신문 방송이랑 포탈 메인뉴스만 훓어보고 판단했었는데 그후 게시판 유저들의 토론에 참여하며 그동안 제가 주류 언론사의 정보에만 의존하며 진실이라 믿었던 정보들이 얼마나 의도적으로 왜곡 되었는지 깨닫게 되었습니다

물론 넷상에서 일반 유저들을 통해 알게된 정보들이 무조건적으로 신뢰할 만 하다는 뜻은 당연히 아닙니다
충분한 근거와 검증을 거치고 상식과 이치를 따져 분별해내야 하겠지요…

Speaking exactly, netizens are citizens who connect online. This means that Christians who connect online are also included and journalists who put all criticisms on netizens are also included…
Are people who don’t use the internet and depend on information from the mass media approaching the truth?

Or are people who go through information online and offline approaching the truth closer?

Just several years before, I went through the major media and main portal news. I have participated in panels on the internet and recognized how much information I had believed true from major media were distorted.

Of course information I get from some internet users is not always trustable. We should classify which one is sensible and reasonable…

The age of netizens is regarded as an important issue for this argument.

저도 네티즌이 국민이라고 생각하는데요..
문제는 네티즌의 여론을 주도 하는 세력이..
10대부터 20대 초반 이라는 거죠..
경제력이 있고 사회경험이 있는 20대 후반 부터는..
넷상에서 그렇게 강력하게 자기 의견을 피력하지는 않는 것 같아요..
왜냐하면 최소한 그 정도 나이의 사람들은 사회경험으로 인해..
상대방의 의견을 수렴하려는 태도를 가지고 있음에도 불구하고..
오히려 무차별적 자기 주장만 하는 몇몇 사람들로 인해 질려버린거죠..
인터넷에서의 대화가 실생활에서 직접 사람을 대하듯 하지 않는다면..
네티즌은 네티즌일뿐 국민이 될 수는 없을 듯 보입니다..

I also think netizens are citizens.
The problem is that the major influential netizens are teenagers and in their early 20s…
Those from the late 20s who have economic power and social experience, they don’t frankly state their opinions.
Even though those people have open minds to accept other people’s opinions, they are fed up with a few people who are just crazy about their own opinions. If internet conversations are not like people talking face to face, netizens are just netizens. They can’t be citizens.

Netizens’ opinions are not taken as ‘opinions,’ as in this argument:

인터넷에서 적극적으로 활동하는 사람은 10~30대이고 특히 토론방 같은 경우에는 정말 사용하는 사람이 매일 사용하는 것을 쉽게 볼 수 있어요. 특히, 이 토론방도 10대에서 20대 초반이 엄청 많습니다.

이런 곳에서 나오는 글만 보고서 그것이 국민여론이네, 언론이 여론을 숨기네 그러는건 너무 웃기죠.

제가 볼 때 네티즌은 그냥 한무리의 집단입니다^^

People who are active on the internet are mostly from teenagers to people in their 30s. Internet panel rooms are just for certain people who use them everyday. Especially, this panel room is full of teenagers and those in their early 20s.

It’s funny to hear that opinions from these kinds of rooms are citizens’ opinions and the mass media is covering up citizens’ opinions.

In my opinions, netizens are just a group.

As long as the perception that internet users are equal to the young generation does not change, netizens opinions seem not to be taken as serious as ‘opinions,’ as we can see in the opinion below.

잘생각해보세요
어떻게 네티즌여론이 국민여론?
인터넷에 글쓰는 주 연령층이 10대 후반에서 30대 중후반입니다
물론 언론에서 일방적인 보도를 할수 있으나
얼마전까지만 해도 k본부 m본부 s본부 기독교 비리 밝혀내기에 바빴던 언론입니다
그런데 지금 왜이렇게 비판여론을 무시하고 일방적 보도할까요?
일단
네티즌여론이 대다수 국민이 생각하는 여론이 아니기때문이고
방송매체에서까지 인터넷에서 떠도는 말로 기사쓰면 종교분쟁 일어납니다

Think about it.
How can netizens’ opinions be citizens’ opinions?
The main age of Internet users is from the late teens to 30s.
The media might have one-sided report, but they have also tried to investigate the corruptions of some Christian branches.
But why do media disregard critical opinions?

First, netizens’ opinions cannot be opinions that most citizens have and if the media deals with these Internet opinions, religious battles will start.

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Rising Voices Outreach Projects Get Straight to Work This is a Video post

a small portrait of this author David Sasaki · 20:33
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It was less than a month ago that we announced the first round of Rising Voices outreach projects but already those first five projects have made incredible progress. Let's make a quick dash around the world to see what a little hard work and a lot of collaboration can achieve.

HiperBarrio, Colombia

First stop, Colombia. Álvaro Ramirez, Jorge Montoya, and Juliana Rincón originally submitted two separate project proposals both focused on working class neighborhoods in Medellín and both with the same objectives. They are now all working together and have formed an organization called HiperBarrio with the tagline Historias Locales, audiencia global, or “Local Stories, global audience.” They have already registered a domain and the website is under currently construction.

Just one week after receiving confirmation of their Rising Voices outreach grant, Álvaro Ramirez and Mauricio Múnera organized a video blogging workshop at the public library of the poor and often violent neighborhood of La Loma San Javier. Álvaro documented the first three workshops with a series of photographs taken by the young participants themselves. Here is a description of their first experience with video blogging:

Luego subimos a la sala de computadores y lectura de la Biblioteca del barrio y en grupitos de dos y tres se sentaron a aprender a manejar el Movie Maker, a crear un juguete audiovisal de 30 segundos de duración con fotos tomadas de internet para luego subirlas a YouTube.

Trabajaron con rapidez y mucho entusiasmo asistidos en la parte técnica por Juan Diego, Mauricio, Diego y mi persona. En la parte estética y de contenido no necesitaron mayor ayuda. La creatividad demostrada fue impresionante y fácilmente se ponían de acuerdo en la forma como querían armar sus pequeñas experimentos.

Later we went up to the computer lab of the neighborhood library and in small groups of two to three they sat down to learn how to use Windows Movie Maker to create a small 30 second audio visual example made of photos taken from the internet.

They worked quickly and with a lot of enthusiasm and were assisted with some technical help from Juan Diego, Mauricio, Diego, and myself. In regards to aesthetic and content, they didn't need any help at all. The creativity they demonstrated was impressive and they easily discovered how they wanted to go about each of their small projects.

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Juan Diego showing HiperBarrio participants how to use Windows Movie Maker.

You can see all of the videos that the students have made so far on YouTube. Here is just one example which was produced by Sebastian, Jessica, and Susana. It is titled “Susana's Super Skates.”

The text reads:

The new roller skates.
Are practical and comfortable.
And at low prices.
Try them out.
Barbie roller skates.

As you can see, these three already have a bright future in marketing. Here is another video, this time produced by Guillermo Alvarez and Ivan Dario Merchan. It is called “Colombia, Land of Scenery and Contrasts.”

The text reads:

Colombia, land of images.
There is a lot of talk about war in Colombia
Life and scenery
Dance, joy, and entertainment
… culture, faith, and hope
… We are also

Nari Jibon, Bangladesh

You'll hear much more about the HiperBarrio project in Colombia in next week's introductory podcast. But for now let's move on to Bangladesh and the Nari Jibon project. Just about the same time that HiperBarrio was starting to give videoblogging workshops in Medellín, Nari Jibon organized its first blogging workshop with professional Bangladeshi blogger Razib Ahmed who heads both SouthAsiaBiz.com and IndiaRaj.com.

Apparently the workshop was inspiring as Nari Jibon bloggers have been publishing posts at a prolific rate. Of particular note is a five-part story about a young Bangladeshi girl who was forced into sex work. Both Taslima Akter and Animesh Chandra Bain have been instrumental in integrating blogging into Nari Jibon's existing classes for young women from Dhaka.

Bolivia, Kolkata, and Sierra Leone

The next three projects are still in their planning phases, but even their planning has been impressive. From Bolivia, Hugo Miranda has described the difficulties that he, Mario, and Eduardo have been having in finding an ideal cyber cafe to hold their outreach workshops [ES] in El Alto:

Esta situación se repite en la mayoría de los Cafés Internet, ahora si bien se encuentran también cafés Internets de entre 40 y 50 maquinas, el estado en que las maquinas se encuentran es también es lamentable, me encontré hasta con equipos Pentium I y Pentium II que utilizaban XP FENIX (Sistema liviano de XP para equipos de 300 Mhz con 64 MB en RAM ), que obviamente no permitiran un buen desarrollo del Taller.

The same [poor] situation is repeated in most internet cafes. Even if cafes can be found with 40 to 50 computers, the state of those machines is terrible. I've even seen computers with Pentium I and II processors that use XP FENIX (a hacked operating system for XP to run on computers with just 300 Mhz and 64 megabytes of RAM), which obviously wouldn't allow us to put on a good workshop.

From Kolkata, India, Bishan Samaddar has eloquently described the goals of Neighbourhood Diaries which will kick off sometime in October. Likewise, Vickie Remoe-Doherty is hard at work in Freetown, Sierra Leone despite the madness of election season and the deteriorating health of her grandmother.

If you haven't already, don't forget to check out the introductory podcast to the Nari Jibon project. Early next week we'll be bringing you the first part of the introductory podcast to HiperBarrio in Colombia.

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Lebanon: Elections, Socio-political Theories, Relief and Blogging 

a small portrait of this author Moussa Bashir · 15:39

The Lebanese government decided to hold by–elections on August 5. These elections are to fill the parliamentary seats that became vacant due to the despicable assassinations of the past months. This decision, the nominees and the campaigns are the subject of discussions of many blogs in the Lebanese blogosphere. Other topics also discussed this week include: the Lebanese middle–class, Lebanese architecture, language and social consciousness, and why dictatorship may be the best solution for Lebanon. In addition to these, there are posts about activities taking place during summer, the border town of Ayta Shaab a year after the July war and about blogging and netizens. This week's weblog include the aforementioned and posts that request and discuss aid given to the Palestinian refugees in Lebanon. Enjoy:

By–elections:

Jamal’s Propaganda tackles the issue of the by–election by discussing the curricula–vitae of the candidates in a very sarcastic post that he begins by saying:

An election is the process through which the people hire a parliamentary representative to work for them. It is imperative in any hiring process to thoroughly evaluate the candidates for the job. A one on one interview with the candidates would be ideal. Some might argue that it would be exhausting for the candidates to answer to thousands of citizens, but isn’t that the job description of the Member of Parliament? Anyways, in a more practical world a town hall meeting style debate should be the minimum required interaction between the candidates and the decision makers, but even that is absent in our democracy since that might be considered a form of accountability which is officially a sin in all 18 religions of Lebanon. This leaves the people only one way of judging the candidates which is by looking at their curricula vitae.

Lebanon Update contends that it is very difficult to stay neutral in Lebanon. He explains his position and goes on to discuss the elections:

these days you have to have an opinion in Lebanon. It seems that these are not the times for neutrality: you are either with March 8 or March 14. In that sense, Lebanon starts to resemble a two party state, similar to the USA. There is one huge difference, though: in America, the winner takes it all, the loser’s standing small…and the losers are OK with that. Not so in Lebanon. In a suffocating way, the Lebanese political scene does not allow the winner to take anything unless all losers agree.

Jeha’s Nail also discusses the elections and introduces his analysis by saying:

We Lebanese wear our emotions on our sleeves, and we often tend to overreact with passion. Doing so, we can greedily focus far too much on the potential Rewards, and forget about the Risks associated with our actions. The Elections in Metn and Beirut 2nd District are a case in point.


Middle class, language difference, Ayta Shaab, dictatorship etc.

Remarkz posted some socio–political analysis of some aspects of the Lebanese society. In one of these articles he states that difference of the language of broadcast in the local Lebanese radio stations is a symptom of the difference in the social consciousness of the Lebanese and he gives examples to explain:

Let's take the events of Nahr el Bared and the political deadlock as an initial environment from which media derive statements about modes of conduct.
One conclusion of all this is that there are no French media outlet (written, spoken, visualized), none whatsoever, that dedicates its program to real social issues. So no wonder that you have a francophone population that is mainly unaware or oblivious of such issues but very much vociferous about hazy concepts of “independence” and “rule of law” tainted sometimes by mild racism..

Social and economic issues are indeed debated in Lebanon but mostly in Arabic. To some extent, you can find some voiced in English. This is why I would argue that the English-speaking community is already more aware of things. So some English-French speakers but most importantly readers, may be more in touch with what's going on (Daily Star has some good stuff being written from time to time, although this hits a very narrow portion of English speakers, not those who don't read obviously). There is no fully fledged English language radio station. I think radio is a very important media outlet especially among the average working class.

Remarkz also visited the southern border village of Ayta Shaab and wrote about his first impressions in the village that was bombed heavily during the July war last year.

Arz el Jabal sees that Lebanon has lost its future and is retrogressing because it has lost its middle class:

Many countries have marked their stability by the size of their middle class. American democracy and power was spurred by growth in the middle class. Even in Communist China the new burgeoning middle class of 200 million wants more stability and rule of law. To quote Ayn Rand, “upper classes are a nation's past; the middle class is its future.” However, in Lebanon a middle class is almost nonexistent. Beirut is a have or have not world; if Rand was correct, the Lebanese are definitely retrogressing.

Arz el Jabal also posts a conversation with a Georgetown doctorate degree holder who believes that the best solution for the Lebanese problems is a dictatorship:

a woman who had lived through the Civil War, and has a doctorate from Georgetown say, “the only way to fix Lebanon is with a dictator. Get a dictator who stops the sectarianism, makes us a nation, and gets some order.” While she was fervently anti-Syrian, she must have noticed how Syria had grand gardens, clean streets, working traffic lights. Laws were observed and there was a semblance and order about the place. This is all completely lacking in Lebanon. Lebanon looks like a tribal mishmash.

If you are interested in restored 1798 houses built in accordance with traditional Lebanese architecture then go to Kadmous.

Independence 05 mentions some of the activities that are or will take place during summer in Lebanon:

Lebanon this summer, it turns out that some festivals are still on-going such as Byblos Festivals. Smalla concerts and gigs are taking place in several pubs and restaurants. And unlike what a lot predicted for Lebanon's summer to be dead and boring, night-life in Gemmayze street (Beirut) is back, and wild hot beach days are getting hotter and hotter. Several local radion stations are hosting the music in several resorts, creating an environment of strong dancing on house and electro music.

Help and donations
Body on the Line posts about requests for donations needed for the relief work with displaced Palestinian refugees from Nahr el Bared, in addition to donation requests for other crises affecting indigenous populations in the United states.

Ya-Ashrafe-nnas gives an account of a 20 yr old activist who is working with the relief volunteers who are helping the displaced Palestinians in the north of Lebanon and discusses what it means to be a pro–Palestinian:

When I meet foreigners who say that they are pro Palestinians I am not impressed, for to be a pro Palestinian one need to understand the hardship of being a Palestinian, or you're an “academic” “theorist” pro Palestinian who doesn't really know how does it feel to be a refugee or under occupation.
books can teach you the truth, but you can only live the truth right here among us.

Blogging
Finally, what is blogging, who blogs, citizen journalism versus professionalism, the business of blogging, are among the issues discussed in this article at Pierre Tristam’s Candide’s Notebook:

Netizens are non-professionals who take the floor and intervene in discussions otherwise open only to experts. Who make themselves heard even if they have not studied rhetoric, are not PR consultants, and do not hold shares in the media industry, which would guarantee a certain degree of attention for their opinions. People who castigate the brainwashing, deceit and exploitation, the whole swindle of the State in the late capitalist age, who no longer simply accept the business world, which is also in the throes of its late capitalist stages, and who write, write, write whenever it is particularly painful. And they certainly do not mince their words when they write, not even when the opposite number that has provoked them to such an extent is the most powerful newspaper in the land. On the contrary, the more powerful the adversary, the greater the motivation to demonstrate one's capacities as a critic.
that citizen journalism works particularly well when it is produced by journalists for journalists or would-be journalists. To that extent, “this blogging business” as such should be thoroughly called into question once again.

See you next week.

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Egypt: Death of a Teenager in Police Station 

a small portrait of this author Freedom For Egyptians · 15:30
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Summer does not give life in general a slow motion tempo but also to the life on the blogosphere. However despite the heat and humidity in Cairo and busy beaches on the Mediterranean and the Red Sea in Egypt, bloggers keep us entertained with their amusing and interesting blog posts. In this week's round up from Egypt, Zeinobia is commenting on two stories hitting the headlines in Egypt these days about the Egyptian Judges Club disagreements with the Minister of Justice and the horrific death of a teenager in a police station. Justice for All is reacting to today's collapse of Minnesota Bridge. Missing Egypt who is on a visit to Cairo has an interesting social blog post about Egyptian family traditions. Free Kareem is reporting Reporters without Borders' request to French President Nicolas Sarkozy regarding imprisoned blogger Abdel Kareem Nabil Suleiman. Finally, Tark3at Keyboard is telling us about the new decision on internet subscription that angered Egyptians.

The Egyptian Judges' Club and the Minister of Justice Row: Egyptian Chronicles in her blog post “When Amina Razek turns in to Nadia El-Genndy” she is taking the time to review the dilemma of the Egyptian Judges Club with the Minister of Justice. It is a problem that has been heightened with some press statements. Zeinobia in her elaborate post is not only describing the current relationship between the judges and the minister but also analyzing the problem.

New Nazis’ in Egypt’s Siwa Oasis: Zeinobia is also commenting on another horrific torture case that happen in a police station in the Northern coast of Egypt that led to the death of a teenager.

Minnesota Bridge collapse: Justice for All is expressing his shock to the collapse of Minnesota Bridge. He says “I couldn't help stop my tears from falling couldn't help stop my tears from falling.” He considers Minnesota his home as he lived there for sometime. He is in Cairo now but he is waiting for his friends to send him back when they read his blog post to assure him. Read more about his reaction to the collapse of the bridge here.

Egyptian Family Traditions: Missing Egypt is describing in a blog post Egyptian family traditions through her own personal experience. She has just returned from the United Kingdom for a visit to Cairo. In an interesting post, she is relating a very typical family scene that projects on the Egyptian culture.

France urged to link cooperation with Egypt to better respect human rights: Free Kareem is reporting that Reporters without Borders wrote to French President Nicolas Sarkozy asking him to intercede on behalf of imprisoned blogger Abdel Kareem Nabil Suleiman and imprisoned journalist Abd al-Munim Gamal al Din Abd al-Munim when he receives a visit from his Egyptian counterpart, Hosni Mubarak, on 2 August.

Tark3at keyboard blog is reviewing and commenting on the new decision for DSL internet subscription in Egypt. “New Internet Subscription System Angers Egyptians” is the title of his blog post.

And with this blog post from Tark3at keyboard blog, I end this weekly round-up from Cairo. You all take care!

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