As groups in other countries support Tibetans’ rage and criticize the violence of the Chinese government, Korean netizens are also busy making signature-seeking-campaigns or boycotting the Beijing Olympics. The participants who express their opinions on the internet and put their names on the campaigns are more and more.
The reasons why Koreans should understand Tibetans’ anger and support them seem to be related to the colonization times that they went through and the current situation, including historical conflicts between Korea and China, and North Korean defectors who are forcefully sent back to North Korea by the Chinese police.
Here is a post about why a netizen insists on the boycott against the Beijing Olympics.
최근 중국이 티벳 대규모 유혈 시위 진압 사태로 물의를 빚고 있습니다. 무려 100명 이상이 죽었다는 주장도 나오고 있습니다.한쪽에서는 티벳독립운동으로 죽어가고 한쪽에서는 올림픽한다며 흥겨워하는 것이 정말 아이러니한 모습입니다. 그러나 그뿐만이 아니라 지금도 중국은 북한에서 탈북한 탈북자들을 사형당하는줄 뻔히 알면서도 북한으로 돌려보내고 있습니다.
개인적으로 중국은 올림픽 개최할 자격이 없다고 생각합니다. 인권이 뭔지에 대한 개념이 없고 사람이 너무 많아서 그런지 사람 목숨 알기를 우습게 아는 것 같기도 합니다. 이번 티벳사태로 그 사실을 다시한번 확인한 것 같습니다. (그럼에도 중국정부는 ‘티벳사태가 올림픽에 아무런 악영향을 끼치지 못한다'고 말하고 있습니다.)
중국에게 올림픽은 단지 경제성장 과시하고픈 이벤트에 지나지 않으며 올림픽의 정신이 뭔지 개념도 없습니다. 그 뿐만이아니라 중국의 농 수산물, 중국산 음식물들은 이미 전세계에 신뢰를 잃어버린지 오래입니다. 최근의 일본 농약만두 사건때에도 중국은 자기들은 잘못이 없다면서 발뺌만 하더군요. 주변국강제합병, 역사왜곡, 동북공정/ 미성년자의 성매매와 아동학대등(청소년도 처형) 장기매매 인신매매문제 등 그 외에도 열거하자면 많지만 중략하고 중요한 것은 잘못된 것이 무엇인지 알고 고치려고 노력하는 자세를 보여주는 것이 아니라 중국은 무조건 덮고 진압하고 발뺌하는 후진스러운 마인드를 보여주고 있다는 것입니다.
할리우드 스타 리처드 기어는 “중국이 티베트 내 소요 사태들을 평화적으로 해결하지 않을 경우 베이징 올림픽 참가를 거부해야 한다”고 말했으며 유럽의 일부 정치인들은 이미 중국 올림픽 보이콧에 나선바 있습니다. 이번 보이콧 움직임으로 최소한 중국이 무력진압을 자제하고 자국의 약자 문제에 대해서 적극적인 대처를 보여줬으면 하는 바램입니다. 중국이 노력하는 모습을 보여준다면 즐겁게 올림픽을 볼 수 있겠지만 과연 그 근본적인 마인드가 변할지는 의문입니다…
In my own opinion, China doesn’t have the qualification to hold Olympics. They don’t have any concept for human rights. Maybe they think that they have so many people and look down on a human’s life. We could see this again through this Tibet Protest. (But the Chinese government insists that ‘The Tibet Incident will not have a bad influence on the Olympics.’)
To China, the Olympics is an event to show off their economic growth. They don’t have any understanding of the spirit of the Olympics. In addition, agricultural and marine products from China, and food from China have lost the trust in the world. Recently, in the scandal of agrichemical dumplings that were exported to Japan, China rejected it as their fault. Forceful annexation of neighbors’ lands, distortion of history, China’s Northeastern project/sex trade of teenagers and child abuse (execution of teenagers), human organ sales… there are so many problems to list. But the most important thing is that they don’t show the attitude and efforts to recognize what they do wrong and try to correct, but they show the backward mind that tries to hide and suppress.
Richard Gere, Hollywood star, said, “In this situation, if the Chinese do not act in the proper way, change their ways, acknowledge what is going on, allow free access to communication, then I think that absolutely we have to boycott” and some European politicians also boycott against the Olympics. I hope that this movement will make China restrain the suppression by force and concern about the weak in their country. If they show these kinds of efforts, we can enjoy the Olympics. But I doubt whether their fundamental mind can be changed…
Interesting comments are below.
Bluesky is concerned about next steps from China.
티벳은 시작에 불과하다!!!
Some netizens try to react more rationally. Realism in politics?
너무 감정적으로 대응하는 것은 아니라봅니다. 물론 중국이 올림픽을 개최할 자격이나, 자질이 있는 나라는 절대 아닙니다. IOC가 미친거죠. 하지만 보이콧이라뇨. 그것도 우리나라만… 차라리 IOC에 탄원서를 내는 쪽이… 그것은 개인이 할수 있는 문제가 아니지만.. 전 단지 티벳의 민족들이 불쌍할 뿐입니다. 그것을 보고만 있는 세계의 눈들을 뽑고 싶은 심정입니다. 올림픽의 모토는 세계의 평화인데, 중국은 평화를 모르는 나라입니다. 암튼 각설하고.. 보이콧이라는 극단적인 방법보다는 다른 평화적인 방법을 찾아야 한다고 봅니다. 보이콧도 하나의 일방적 폭력이라는 것을 왜 모르십니까?
Historical ties between Korea and Tibet are mentioned a lot.
티베트 독립 지지 서명에 참여해주세요. 그리고 구체적으로 독립자금을 모아 전달 합시다. 티벳의 독립운동은 남의 일이 아닙니다.일제시대때 우리 한민족의 독립운동과 같은것입니다.
힘없이 36년간 일본의 식민지배를 받아온 우리대한민국은 뼈아픈 역사가 있는나라다 그런데 어찌 티벳민중들의 독립호소에 침묵하는가 중국의 눈치를살피며 살아야하는 비겁한나라인가 티벳이여 함께 통곡하노라.
How about the security?
저렇게 위험천만한 곳에서 어떻게 올림픽을 해요.
What is the spirit of the Olympics?
올림픽의 개최의미가 점점 희박해져가는 것 같네요.개최국의 힘자랑하는 이벤트로 변해버린 것 같네요.
올림픽 정신에 반하는 사고를 가진 나라에서 올림픽을 개최하는것은 절대 반대합니다.
But how about the national interest?
서명은 합니다만, 현실이…중국이 너무 커져 버렸지요. 중국이 우리나라를 왕따를 시키면 아니 전세계를 다 왕따를 시켜버리면 세계경제가 다 마비되죠…미국에선 메이드인차이나가 아닌 물건을 구하기란 보통 일이 아니라고 하죠…그렇지만 서명은 확실히 합니다.
서명합니다…근데 이게 무슨 도움이 될까 의문스럽긴 하네요ㅜㅜ
How about Korea, which had a successful Olympics at the time of continuous demonstrations and suppressions?
저기…우리나라 80년대 때 엄청난 사건이 많이 터졌져..대략 민주화 운동이라고나 할까..그때 우리나라 보면 지금 중국보다 심해여…시민한테 총이나 쏘는 우리나라는 올림픽 개최 가능하고..중국은 안된다?좀 어이없네여.
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Hooray for the voices of the Korean people! Don’t forget that China colonized Korea for 300 years and that China claims 1/3 or more of your country as its “territory since ancient times”, the same logic used to justify the smothering of Tibet and E. Turkestan.
badbadchina.blogspot.com
History deleted inside mainland China
Currently, due to strong Chinese government censorship including Internet censorship, the news media is forbidden to report anything related to the protests. The event has been almost completely absent from Chinese media, including the Internet. No one is allowed to make any web sites related to the protests.[citation needed] A search on the Internet in Mainland China largely returns no results apart from the government-mandated version of the events and the official view, which are mostly found on Websites of People’s Daily and other heavily-controlled media.
In January 2006, Google agreed to censor their mainland China site, Google.cn, to remove information about the 1989 Tiananmen Square massacre as well as other topics such as Tibetan independence, the banned spiritual practice Falun Gong and the political status of Taiwan. When people search for those censored topics, it will list the following at the bottom of the page in Chinese, “According to the local laws, regulations and policies, part of the searching result is not shown.” The uncensored Wikipedia articles on the 1989 protests, both in English and Chinese Wikipedia, have been attributed as a cause of the blocking of Wikipedia by the government in mainland China.
On May 15, 2007, the leader of the pro-Beijing Democratic Alliance for Betterment of Hong Kong, Ma Lik, provoked much criticism when he said that “there was not a massacre” during the protests, as there was “no intentional and indiscriminate shooting.” He said this showed Hong Kong was “not mature enough” for believing foreigners’ rash claims that a massacre took place. He said that Hong Kong showed through its lack of patriotism and national identity, that it would thus “not be ready for democracy until 2022.” His remarks were met with wide condemnation.
On June 4, 2007, the anniversary of the massacre, an ad reading, “Paying tribute to the strong-(willed) mothers of June 4 victims” was published in the Chengdu Evening News newspaper. The matter is currently being investigated by the Chinese government, and three editors have since been fired from the paper. The clerk who approved the ad had reportedly never heard of the June 4 crackdown and had been told that the date was a reference to a mining disaster.
In 2006, the American PBS program “Frontline” broadcast a segment filmed at Peking University, many of whose students participated in the 1989 protests. Four students were shown a picture of the Tank man, but none of them could identify what was happening in the photo. Some responded that it was a military parade, or an artwork. [http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=86339378131832537681
History deleted inside mainland
ChinaCurrently, due to strong Chinese government censorship including Internet censorship, the news media is forbidden to report anything related to the protests. The event has been almost completely absent from Chinese media, including the Internet. No one is allowed to make any web sites related to the protests.[citation needed] A search on the Internet in Mainland China largely returns no results apart from the government-mandated version of the events and the official view, which are mostly found on Websites of People’s Daily and other heavily-controlled media.
In January 2006, Google agreed to censor their mainland China site, Google.cn, to remove information about the 1989 Tiananmen Square massacre,[23] as well as other topics such as Tibetan independence, the banned spiritual practice Falun Gong and the political status of Taiwan. When people search for those censored topics, it will list the following at the bottom of the page in Chinese, “According to the local laws, regulations and policies, part of the searching result is not shown.” The uncensored Wikipedia articles on the 1989 protests, both in English and Chinese Wikipedia, have been attributed as a cause of the blocking of Wikipedia by the government in mainland China.
On May 15, 2007, the leader of the pro-Beijing Democratic Alliance for Betterment of Hong Kong, Ma Lik, provoked much criticism when he said that “there was not a massacre” during the protests, as there was “no intentional and indiscriminate shooting.” He said this showed Hong Kong was “not mature enough” for believing foreigners’ rash claims that a massacre took place. He said that Hong Kong showed through its lack of patriotism and national identity, that it would thus “not be ready for democracy until 2022.”[24] His remarks were met with wide condemnation.
On June 4, 2007, the anniversary of the massacre, an ad reading, “Paying tribute to the strong-(willed) mothers of June 4 victims” was published in the Chengdu Evening News newspaper. The matter is currently being investigated by the Chinese government, and three editors have since been fired from the paper.[25][26] The clerk who approved the ad had reportedly never heard of the June 4 crackdown and had been told that the date was a reference to a mining disaster.[27]
In 2006, the American PBS program “Frontline” broadcast a segment filmed at Peking University, many of whose students participated in the 1989 protests. Four students were shown a picture of the Tank man, but none of them could identify what was happening in the photo. Some responded that it was a military parade, or an artwork. [http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=86339378131832537681
History deleted inside mainland China
Currently, due to strong Chinese government censorship including Internet censorship, the news media is forbidden to report anything related to the protests. The event has been almost completely absent from Chinese media, including the Internet. No one is allowed to make any web sites related to the protests.[citation needed] A search on the Internet in Mainland China largely returns no results apart from the government-mandated version of the events and the official view, which are mostly found on Websites of People’s Daily and other heavily-controlled media.
In January 2006, Google agreed to censor their mainland China site, Google.cn, to remove information about the 1989 Tiananmen Square massacre,[23] as well as other topics such as Tibetan independence, the banned spiritual practice Falun Gong and the political status of Taiwan. When people search for those censored topics, it will list the following at the bottom of the page in Chinese, “According to the local laws, regulations and policies, part of the searching result is not shown.” The uncensored Wikipedia articles on the 1989 protests, both in English and Chinese Wikipedia, have been attributed as a cause of the blocking of Wikipedia by the government in mainland China.
On May 15, 2007, the leader of the pro-Beijing Democratic Alliance for Betterment of Hong Kong, Ma Lik, provoked much criticism when he said that “there was not a massacre” during the protests, as there was “no intentional and indiscriminate shooting.” He said this showed Hong Kong was “not mature enough” for believing foreigners’ rash claims that a massacre took place. He said that Hong Kong showed through its lack of patriotism and national identity, that it would thus “not be ready for democracy until 2022.”[24] His remarks were met with wide condemnation.
On June 4, 2007, the anniversary of the massacre, an ad reading, “Paying tribute to the strong-(willed) mothers of June 4 victims” was published in the Chengdu Evening News newspaper. The matter is currently being investigated by the Chinese government, and three editors have since been fired from the paper.[25][26] The clerk who approved the ad had reportedly never heard of the June 4 crackdown and had been told that the date was a reference to a mining disaster.[27]
In 2006, the American PBS program “Frontline” broadcast a segment filmed at Peking University, many of whose students participated in the 1989 protests. Four students were shown a picture of the Tank man, but none of them could identify what was happening in the photo. Some responded that it was a military parade, or an artwork. [http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=86339378131832537681
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Tibet Protest? No,it is really a riot in Tibet! Thugs killed many common people .Their relatives are crying .Do you still think it is just a protest？
You don’t appreciate China as you like ,but don’t distort the truth,and don’t be for the mobs and the killers.Because the people who were killed couldn’t close their eyes!!
Tibet was , is and will be a part of China!
I put a video up over the weekend on Dalai Lama’s rule in Tibet:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=bFSS826ETlk
Some of the people here mention the Tiananmen incident and try to draw parallels. Here is the video evidence -
Tiananen massaccre is a myth:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=SbX0gAk3zRA
Also, do not listen to Westerners. Even the religion they founded is based on wrong information and lies:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=1-vJN1l71NQ
I posted a video on the Dalai Lama’s rule in Tibet:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=bFSS826ETlk
Also, some people here mention the parallels to the Tiananmen massacre.
Tiananmen massacre is a lie, it never happened and we have eyewitness:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=SbX0gAk3zRA
Do not listen to Westerners. They even got their entire religion wrong. Christianity is built on lies and part of the difficulty as a Christian myself is to try and identify what are the truth and what are lies:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=1-vJN1l71NQ
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Most Koreans I talk to do not trust China because they see how the government has clamped down on news reporting unless it is from official news sources or bloggers who echo the government position regarding Tibet. At least Koreans do remember what is like to be oppressed and hate it.
you guys know what, you have ever been to China? could you know more than a people who live in China? I am a common chinese girl. China is a country of 56 ethnical groups . we are very united. this time, it is just Dala who prompt small goup of Tibetan chinese to do those crimes. The small goup of criminals can’t represent the whole Tibetan chinese. Large number of Tibetan chinese are now scattered on all part of China. Dut to its geographical condition,(Tibetan are on 4000 meters plateau.)Tibet is obviously less developed than other parts of China.Our chinese government every year send many scholors from other parts of china to help Tibetan chinese building their homes(even our president is ever governor of Tibet) and carried out a policy that minority goups are more privilege than main chinese group in education such as score-adding on main examination. stop criticizing, mind your own business. All chinses people are like one family . we love China. China will become a super power in 30 years. Watch!
now, millions of chinese people are supporting our government．if you don’t believe, you can go to any chinese websites.
亏你们还是我们的好邻邦．你们不配．
I don’t think Korea or any other country will boycott Olympics because when it all come down do it is what can each of the country gain or lose by doing that? I think all country could lose lot more than gain if they boycott Olympics. To be blunt, Tibet has no trade relations or money involved. It’s sad but true, money make world go around. If Dali Lama is going to have any chance of going back to Tibet at all he should condemn the riot and ask all tibetans to stand down.
What we must believe is our eyes! All the media around the world must be screened and identified by ourselves with our own eyes. Motive video is better than photo. Photos can easily be modified or cut to the size for politicians and their media to use, and be emphasied with their own motion.
We MUST use our own eyes to watch live video and carefully identify who were killed or hit.
When media supplied video that showed innocent people be killed, we have enough reason to believe the fact and know who are making the conflicts, or riots.
Don’t be cheated by the politicians! including the exile leader Dalai and his young followers, including western countries led by USA, UK, Germany and their media, even including the China government! They have their positions.
I am a Chinese girl, I am really surprised to hear from you for those unreal and distorted truth. Have you been to China? Do you know China and Chinese people? if you know little about our China and Chinese people, you have no right to say this. Do you think you know China better than our Chinese. You are wrong. China is a united and multi-ethnic country, it is a country with 56 ethnical groups, which are united together closely. I am also from a minority group, Zhuang minority, one of the 56 ethnical groups, all of us are living happily, well-closed and well-fed under the leadership of Chinese Communist Party, we thanks very much for our Central Government’s good leadership and many preferential policies provided for our ethnical groups. Do you know these?
Tibet violence is just illegal activity by a small group of Tibetan who are abetted by Dala group, it is a conspiratorial activity, their actions violate our country’s peace and unification policy. Actually, most of Tibetan support China, in this violence, they are severely harmed. Millions of our Chinese people support Chinese Government to take action to peace this violence and severely punish those criminals. We Chinese will closely unify together against any illegal activities to damage our peace and unification. China always regard you as a friendly neighbor, in returns, you treat China in this way!
China will be the most powerful country in the next few decades, it is an unchangeable trend.We love China and support Chinese Government Forever, Hope you could see truth from fact.
Dalai Lama backs Beijing Olympics
Australia ABC News
Updated 10 March 2008 at 04:55:21
Tibet’s exiled spiritual leader, the Dalai Lama, says he backs China’s right to host the Olympic Games.
He made the statement after China’s top official in Tibet accused him of trying to sabotage the summer games.
The Dalai Lama called the Chinese official’s accusation “highly inflammatory”.
He said while he does not support the calls by Tibet support groups for a games boycott, he says they could remind the international community about the repression and urgency of the situation in Tibet.
The Dalai Lama is frustrated by China’s refusal to discuss ‘cultural autonomy’ for Tibet, but sees a window to sway public opinion ahead of the Olympics.
Tibet independence? No way.
Int’l conference on Tibet? Impossible.
Negotiate with central government for religious position none political. Yes.
Want power in political area? forget it!
Why? Tibet wasn’t, isn’t and won’t be a country, just a autonomouns region.
Dalai may not hope the independence, but his young followers are absolutely eager for the power, not only in teaching but also in politics.
If Dalai cannot control his followers, he will either lose his ability, or be replaced by his followers.
Anyway monks are monks. Monks shouldn’t be involved in politics.
No country in the world including the west allows religion combined with politics.
this is so right!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
i think most chinese people have some kind of self esteem
on them selves.
it is so discusting.. weird…
you know,,, You chinese people say that,, ur ancestors ruled korean peninsula for hundreds of years and korea was a colony of china.
we understand why u say things like that.
korea wasnt a colony but a sister country of china. this is it.
nothing more than that.
and you always try to steal others’ history just for the reason that korea has such a weird maps and history books
which japan massed so much in the early 1900s. and we are still discovering other history books from ancient time.
and most koreans hate chinese government
and chinese who has such a weird self pride about them selves.
and this, tibet needs freedom.
what are the things you chinese mainland people did
for tibet?
what did chinese government to care for tibet?
and i have more questions.
why is china so eager for other countries’ history and their lands>>??
china is already a big country
dont be so selfish. is it for the natural resources??
or the desert?
or what??
we are so sick of the yellow sand that blows from china. It makes so many disease in korea!!!!!!!!!!
why do koreans have to tolerate for all that shit you stupid chinese people make?
even the desert. it’s getting bigger because you took all the trees out !!
it’s ur fault and why do i have to get the reward??????
just leave others alone!!! u bastards!!!!!!!!
so mean people .
at last,,
even only a small amount of other country’s people are
living in china, it doesnt mean that the country is yours.
remember that.
ok, get the tibet. Then the world will shoot china,
and free tibet.
“annie”, if you really do support the Chinese Communist Party as being so wonderful, then you need to develop critical awareness of what you believe in for it has some gaping blind spots. Frankly, your rhetoric sounds more like a Maoist from the 60’s than a modern-day person. That alone would make your words repellent and suspect.
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Hello,
I would like to join a peaceful protest of the Beijing Olympics when the Olympic torch comes to Seoul APRIL 27. I know there will me many anti-China, pro-Tibet and Falun Gong supporters out protesting. Is there a group that will be protesting and how can I join them?
G-G,
Suggest you contact any overseas Chinese association in your capital, or any Chinese company. Maybe they could help.
Olympic spirit is for peace around world, not for fighting or riots anywhere.
Peaceful protest or demonstration is acceptable, but conflicts between people or even riots is completely against Olympic spirits. Such action is insane, is insulting the world people for peace.
Hi Terry and thanks for your reply to my post.
I’m not sure your suggestion of contacting Chinese associations or Chinese companies is a good one though! If I was to contact anyone (and I am going to) I will contact pro-Tibet organization, anti-China organizations and Human Rights Organizations- I highly doubt that Chinese companies or organizations will support or be involved in any protests against the Beijing Olympics!
And yes, I do plan to protest and demonstrate peacefully, of course. I will argue, however, that what you call the “spirit” of the Olympics, in my opinion, has already been violated by holding the Games in such a nation as China in the first place! These Olympics do not stand for international brotherhood, peace, and mutual understand and cooperation as they should. So, should the protesters express their anger of this violation by the IOC in meaningful ways, I will support them!
Peace.
Do you have any proof for the so-called violence of the Chinese government? Please provide them, otherwise, please shut up.
Tell you, that was a riot, many Han people were killed and burnt. You Korean, we will pray for you, as you also like to pretend that you are full of love, but in fact you are helping the bad man the robs to kill people.
Hi Sue,
Well, there are HEAPS of evidence of violence (not so-called, but very real) committed by the Chinese government in the past and recently. So, no I won’t shut up, and neither will anyone calling for the end to the violence, until it stops. Have you ever heard of Tiananmen Square, 1989?- I’d ask you to watch the video of a human being crushed by a tank before you ask for evidence. And that is JUST ONE documented (on film) and very famous example of this very real violence committed by the PRC against its people. I could list more, but I think you could easily find this evidence yourself if you were truly interested in the truth.
These websites may help you:
http://www.christusrex.org/www1/sdc/hr_facts.html
http://www.amnesty.org/en/news-and-updates/report/what-human-rights-legacy-beijing-olympics-20080401
http://www.hrw.org/doc?t=asia&c=china
I would advise you to read and inform yourself about human rights violations and violent acts committed by the PRC. No government is perfect, and there are many others out there that, like China, take part in disgusting violence against their peoples, but we cannot stand quiet while people the world over are being robbed of their innate rights and dignity.
Protesting the legitimacy of holding the Olympics in Beijing is not a personal attack on Chinese people. I have nothing against Chinese citizens who are not perpetrating violence against others, but I stand firm against the government that does so.
Also, I am not Korean, but I live in Korea. And I try my best to be full of love and I certainly try my best not to help any bad men rob or kill people, as you say, and I’m sure there are many Koreans who do so as well.
Good luck in finding the truth.
Peace.
Hi Sue,
Firstly, there are absolutely HEAPS of evidence of violence (not so-called, but very real) committed by the Chinese government, both past and present. I’d ask if you have ever heard of the violence in Tiananmen Square in 1989? Or if you’ve ever seen the videos of humans being shot and crushed by tanks? That is of course one very famous, and well documented, large example of violence committed by the Chinese Government. Then of course there are documented cases of torture of Falun Gong practitioners, Uigher seperatists and other minority groups being tortured, imprisoned and oppressed…the list can go on and on and on….There are many, many other examples and very recent ones too- too many to list here in fact. But I’d like to point you to some internet resources that might help you:
http://www.hrw.org/doc?t=asia&c=china
http://www.amnesty.org/en/news-and-updates/report/what-human-rights-legacy-beijing-olympics-20080401
http://www.christusrex.org/www1/sdc/hr_facts.html
Not only does the Chinese government perpetrate violence within its own borders but it also supports regimes that do the same (Sudan, for example).
If you really are searching for the truth of the matter, it is easy to find.
After offering this, I’d like to add that no, I won’t ever “shut up” (even after you say please =) ) and nor will many others like me until the violence stops.
NO government is perfect or even near perfect, whether European, American, Asian, or African. There are many the world over, like the government of China, that perpetrate violence against their peoples and we cannot stand silent while they continue to rob humans of their dignity and innate rights.
The protest against the legitimacy of holding the Olympics in Beijing is not directed at Chinese people, but against the Chinese government. The current protest is not a singling out of China and a blind complicity to our own nations and the many other nations that commit the same violations either. We must all bring attention to and express our disapproval to ANY and ALL governments that engage in violence and human rights violations!
Finally, I am not Korean, I live in Korea. I am deeply sorry about any deaths in China due to the current protests, whether the victims where Chinese or Tibetan! NO ONE should have to die in a violent manner. I definitely do not pretend to be “full of love”, however hard I try to be and I certainly try my best not to help any bad men kill or rob any people! And, since that seemed directed at Korean people, I think a lot of them try to be full of love as well, and I also doubt that many of them help bad men kill and rob people.
Let’s try for mutual understanding.
Good luck in your search for the truth.
Peace.
We always consider South Korea is a frindly neighbor of China. now, i totally change my thought.
Small group of Dalai lama’s followers cann’t represent the whole Tibetan chinese. if you go to chinese blogs, you can see many tibetan universtity students criticizing the violence fomented by Dalai Clique. Large number of tibetan chinese are scattered over all parts of China. Several tibetan chinese are also burnt to death in this violence.
well, if you don’t want to join this year’s olympics, we will accept.
Latest recording from RFI, Radio France International
(See English Translation word by word below. Maybe the translate is not so good but has to be devoted to its original dialogue.)
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http://www.rfi.fr/actucn/articles/100/article_6734.asp
达瓦才仁辩解藏独暴力杀害汉人的采访录音
2008年4月2日，法国国际广播电台(RFI, Radio France International)中文广播播出了记者采访“西藏流亡政府”中国事务负责人达瓦才仁的录音，截取片段如下：
记者：
……就以上一系列问题我们采访了“西藏流亡政府”中国事务负责人达瓦才仁，达瓦才仁先生你好！中国官方多次对达赖喇嘛的非暴力主张提出质问，并且提问说，如果达赖真的主张非暴力，那他为什么没有对“3.14”在西藏发生的藏人屠杀汉人的残暴行为做出谴责？
达瓦才仁：
首先必须要声明的是，藏人从头到尾使用的是非暴力，从藏人的角度来讲，暴力指的是对生命的伤害。（从头到尾藏人）从镜头里可以看打汉人，但都是打而已，打完以后那些汉人都会跑掉，仅仅是殴打，而不是伤害生命。那么那么那些被杀的人全部都是出于意外，从中共的报道里面都可以非常清楚的看到，他们（汉人）都是在藏人砸门的时候，跑到楼上躲起来，躲起来藏人放火烧的时候，他们都没有逃跑，而是藏起来，结果后来就意外的烧死了，而那些点火、放火的人他们根本不知道楼上有汉人躲藏。所以被烧死的人不仅有汉人，也有藏人，所以这些事情都是一种意外，不是屠杀。
For those who don’t understand Chinese:
Apr 2 Radio French International, its Chinese broadcast division phone-interviewed Dawa Tsering, the spokesman of China Affairs Dept. of ‘Tibet Government in exile’ about the riots in Lhasa Mar 14,
Interview: Hello, Mr Dawa Tsering. Chinese officials repeated their doubts on Dalai Lama’s claim for ‘non-violence’, and questioned that, if really like what Dalai Lama said, why there was no condemnation from him on the violent actions of Tibetans’ killing Han in Lhasa on March 14?
Dawa Tsering: First of all, what I must claim is, from start to end, the Tibetans used no violence. From the angle of Tibetans, violence means ‘to hurt one’s life’. (from the beginning to the end) From videos* you may watch Han people were hits/beats, but they were hits/beats only. After the hits/beats, those Hans ran away. It’s beat/hit only, not harming the life. Those, those who were killed, are all accidents. From Communist China’s report, you can clearly find out, they (Hans) all ran upstairs of their houses and hid themselves when Tibetans tamped the doors, and hid. When Tibetans burned their houses, they didn’t escape but hide themselves. The results were burned to death accidentally. While those, who lighted fire, and fired the houses, didn’t know at all that the Hans were hiding upstairs. Therefore, those, who were burned to death, were not only Hans but Tibetans. All of these were accidents, not killing or slaughters.
*Remarks: the videos mentioned above are from CCTV, China Central Television, the riots video links here:
video taken by police and citizens in Lhasa.
1. 14Mar, 18 innocent people (including some Tibetans) were hit by knife or burned to death, over 300 houses were burned, 382 were hit or injured by the Western said protests for peace. Police were attacked.
Fxxk those media and rascals in western countries!
http://english.cri.cn/4026/2008/03/21/1481@336560.htm
(open this link, wait for a while until the video plays)
2. 15Mar, Look at the dead people! The scene is horrible! Do you have humanity.
http://news.qq.com/a/20080409/001275.htm