The election crisis in Zimbabwe continues: there are reports from the mainstream media, bloggers and human rights organisations about state organised post-election violence against supporters of the opposition, the main opposition leader, Morgan Tsvangirai, has left the country for Botswana fearing for his life and the “ship of evil” continues to draw bloggers' attention.
The Evil Ship
KOGY calls the Chinese ship carrying weapons destined for Zimbabwe “the evil ship”:
As the evil ship carrying weapons of mass destruction is stranded in the South African coast, there are cries for ‘freedom' everywhere in Zimbabwe today. The once prosperous country full of happy people has now turned into an unwanted hunger and disease stricken country. The economy is in shambles, the country is in crisis because the ruling party does not want to release the results of the elections which everyone else besides Zanu PF believe Mugabe lost. The Zimbabwe government has now turned to acquiring weapons of mass destruction, to destroyed the same people whom they want us to believe they voted for Mugabe to remain in power.
Hope questions the logic of buying weapons during “abnormal times”:
Can a transaction in arms ever be considered ‘normal’ during abnormal times?
I’m nothing more than a confused Zimbabwean, but I want to know what happens when the postman arrives at the door of Zimbabwe’s State House asking for the President to sign for the delivery… who signs for it?
Who will come to Zimbabwes aid?:
Already the illegal government is busy buying arms from China either using aid money meant for ordinary Zimbabweans or mortgaging the country's natural resources for the exchange of arms that it intends to use on ordinary unarmed civilians whose sole crime is vote Mugabe and Zanu PF out of power. The Chinese vessel failed to offload its cargo in South Africa thanks to the members of the South African Transport and Allied Workers Union (SATAWU) who refused to offload the weapons and is said to be heading towards Angola or Namibia and we know Angola sides with Mugabe so as does Namibia and the world's superpowers should halt that consignment reaching a blood thirst dictator. If the world does not act now there will be catastrophe in Zimbabwe.
Sokwanele calls for action:
Send a Portuguese email to stop the ‘An Yue Jiang':
This relates to our action post (at this link), where we are collating efforts and ideas to stop the An Yue Jiang from delivering Chinese weapons to Zimbabwe.
Feel free to copy and paste the text below to send emails to Portuguese speaking recipients. We’ve kept the wording non-specific so you can use it for a variety of organisations. Include a personal English comment underneath this text if you would like to do so.
A very big thank-you to CC for the Brazilian-Portugese translation.
Stop the An Yue Jiang from delivering Chinese weapons to Zimbabwe.
They have posted a petition by Avaaz, a gobal web movement, and have also developed an ‘Action Contact Database':
The response from everyone to the campaign to stop weapons on board the An Yue Jiang from reaching Zimbabwe has been phenomenal. A wealth of information and contacts poured in to us, but finding all the contributions amongst all the comments was a little overwhelming.
In response, we have developed an ‘Action Contact Database‘.
Morgan Tsvangirai
Following the reports that the opposition leader, Morgan Tsvangirai, is not planning to go back to Zimbabwe soon from Botswana, Bev Clark writes, “If I had my way I’d put him on a shuttle and send him straight to Mars.”:
I’ve read that Morgan Tsvangirai believes that shuttle diplomacy is the way to go right now. If I had my way I’d put him on a shuttle and send him straight to Mars. I read in the Zimbabwe Independent that Tsvangirai, his family and his advisers have set up camp in Botswana because Zimbabwe is too dangerous. I’m not sure how much more insulting one can get but Tsvangirai certainly takes the cake.
I was at a lunch on Saturday and I just wish Tsvangirai could have been there because the derision with which his name was uttered would surely have made him sit up and take note. I wrote recently about finding these ridiculous stickers in Newlands in Harare likening Tsvangirai to Mandela . . . yeah right.
Kubatana asked Zimbabweans to send their views about Tsvangirai's decision to stay in Botswana. They texted their views to Kubatana:
He has to come back & instill confidence in the electorate but obviously he has to be security conscious lest he runs into a booby trap.
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He should come back so that we face this war together he is our man.
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Tell Tsvangirai to come back. Lets fight together they can arrest him yes but the revolution spirit will never die.
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Tsvangirai should not take refuge in a foreign country. He must come back home and face the reality. He should be like a Kalilombe which sacrifices itself up to death.
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What would u do if there is no one to protect you? He is right.
Post-Election Violence
We are going back to war:
The same person who sent us this message also advised us that someone he knows in the Macheke area saw two youngsters walking down the road with AKs slung over their shoulders. He asked another person - a war vet he had a friendly relationship with - what it was about:
The answer was, “Yes we are all being armed; we are going back to war”.
There are torture camps set by Mugabe supporters:
In the Thursday edition of The Zimbabwean there were revelations that, “Militant supporters of President Robert have set up torture camps in parts of Mashonaland East province and stepped up a terror campaign against opposition activists in the province”.
The reason for their deployment is to ensure a victory for Mugabe in their planned run-off election.
Sokwanele is able to report that we are able to verify and endorse this information with a report leaked to us by a member of the defence forces. This was received yesterday.
There are a variety of strategies being employed to hoodwink Zimbabweans, particularly those in the rural areas. What follows is a breakdown of the information we have received.
Coordinated state violence against innocent civilians:
It looks like a coordinated phase of Mugabe’s crackdown against human rights and opposition activists.
In addition to the news of the arrests, we have received further information from a trusted source who says that the awful Obert Mpofu is up to his dirty tricks and thuggery and violence in Umguza. This is what our source sent us:
Obert Mpofu, the ‘former’ Minister of International trade and Industry controls all the intimidation and violence in Matabeleland North. He was also indirectly implicated in the violent murder of Martin Olds on Independence Day in 2000.
One of Mpofu’s main henchmen is Richard Moyo, the Zanu PF Chairman for Ward 8, Umguza.
Moyo runs a store and beerhall on Cranmore farm, Umguza. He drives a new white Nissan King Cab with Zanu PF Umgusa District on the door.
Moyo is very dangerous and has been known to murder anyone getting in his way. He has a murder charge pending on him since 2005 when he beat-up and then burned to death a guy called Zenzo, who had spoken to one of his girl friends.
You may remember that I wrote a post ten days ago about information that had been sent to us about hands being cut off. I relayed the information from my contact like this:
he said a contact of his had phoned him and told him that people in the Musana Communal Lands, in the Bindura / Shamva area (Mashonaland Central), have had their hands cut off.
Read the statement concerning violence and torture from the Zimbabwe Association of Doctors for Human Rights and visit Kubatana's Special Post-Election Violence 2008 Page.
Protests and Riots
Students at Bindura University of Science Education protested last week:
There was mayhem in Bindura yesterday the 22nd of April 2008 when Bindura University of Science Education BUSE students joined other students at tertiary institutions countrywide in protesting against the illegal regime’s efforts to cling onto power despite losing the March 29 harmonised elections. The angry students stormed the streets at around 10am and marched from the new to the old campus site chanting protest songs. The march was disrupted by ruthless and brutal armed soldiers who forced the students to stop the protest and assaulted several students in the melee. This led to the arrest of three student leaders who were quickly whisked away and are to appear in court today charged under the notorious Public Order and Security Act (POSA).
Last week saw the opening of tertiary institutions nationwide mounted by massive protests by aggrieved students who could not take lightly the exorbitant fee hikes and the illegal delay in releasing the just ended Presidential poll results. The students vowed to continue protesting until the illegal Government of Robert Mugabe swallows its pride, accept defeat and leave office.
And there was a riot at the National University of Science and Technology:
There was a riot at the National University of Science and Technology (NUST) yesterday (16 April).
We heard that several activist students called all the students from their lessons to start a boycott of classes until the Presidential results were released.
There was a slow trickle of curious students out of their classes to see what was going on, and at about this point the riot police were called in.
Things turned aggressive and the university was locked down. We believe that the activists have been arrested, but this fact has not yet been confirmed. The whereabouts of the student activists is unknown.
The student situation in Zimbabwe has been very under-reported.
Simon “Dreadman” Mudekwa, the President of the Zimbabwe Revolutionary Youth Movement was arrested while protesting outside the Chinese Embassy in South Africa. Hope would like people to show support by calling him on his mobile phone:
I just had word that Simon “Dreadman” Mudekwa, the President of the Zimbabwe Revolutionary Youth Movement, was arrested in South Africa while protesting outside the Chinese Embassy.
He is apparently, as we speak, locked up in Sunnyside Police Station - with his cell phone.
Give him a call (we can’t) and let us know in the comments what’s up. Please give him a big cheer from all who love Zimbabwe and stand with him in Solidarity.
Cell phone number: + 27 (0)79 619 2955.
South Africa is about to do the unthinkable:
But after the arrests resulting from a protest outside the Chinese embassy in South Africa, I was alerted to this via 702:
Zimbabwean exiles to be deported after illegal protest
Pretoria police say over a hundred of the Zimbabwean exiles arrested during an illegal protest outside the Chinese embassy today will be deported.
Anti-Zanu PF Tactics
Kubatana blog received tips to counter Zanu PF tactics:
Here are some useful tips sent to us by a passionate man committed to Zimbabwe’s restoration. More than take note - take some of them on!
We need to counter Zanu PF tactics
Communication Fliers, newspapers, rallies, SMS, emails, international media
Violence and Intimidation Build while they burn Support teams of activists to stand up to the bullies We must document the violence, get it into the media and expose the perpetrators
Civil Disobedience Create doubt among Zanu PF Name and Shame Expose them, assets, deals etc.
In the event of a Run-off Pre-election Strategies Election Day Strategies
The ordinary person can - at no personal exposure
* Forward SMS messages of encouragement to friends and colleagues every day * Drive with their headlights on and encourage others to do the same * Give people lifts - especially the police and army personnel - let them do the talking * Talk to friends about the situation - keeping positive, encouraging and creating awareness
The next steps (as people become braver) could be:
* Open palm salutes to everyone throughout the day * More open discussion and encouragement * The distribution of newspaper articles and fliers
From most of you we expect a lot more - we expect you to take charge, LEAD
Government of National Unity
Is there a need for a government of National Unity?:
Now we hear that they want a government of national unity, based on what? They called the elections and lost what needs to be negotiated is the smooth transition of power to MDC the choice of the people. Even Zuma the South African Presidential hopeful's ideas of a negotiation between MDC and Zanu PF should be mooted, there is nothing to negotiate, we won the election, we are ready to govern. This whole idea of that Mugabe will steal this election and declare himself a victor rule for 18 months and then hand over power to Emmerson Mnangagwa who in turn will then instigate negotiations with MDC to resume the flow of international aid and perpetuate Zanu PF's stranglehold on Zimbabwe will be rejected by people of Zimbabwe and if needs be we will defend our vote violently. If I read carefully between the lines of the propaganda mouthpiece the Herald is that Mugabe and his military junta surely know that they cannot revive the economy of Zimbabwe, there want to give MDC piecemeal positions within their illegal government ignoring the outcome of the election.
Hope asks, “Is this a sign that Zanu PF are recognising they cannot simply steal the elections and get away with it?”:
The state controlled Herald (aka The Horrid) has an article today which proposes a government of National Unity lead by Robert Mugabe and outlines what they (read Zanu PF because The Herald is their mouthpiece) want SADC to do:
The Zimbabwe Government and independent international observers are agreed that the just-ended harmonised elections did not produce an outright winner in the presidential race. It is unlikely that the on-going recount will substantively alter that position.
Accordingly, it stands to reason that, the transitional government of national unity, negotiated by the two leading contending parties, under the mediation of Sadc, supported by the international community, should be led by the incumbent president.
Confusing Collage of Symbols and Slogans
Finally, Comrade Fatso describes the streets of Zimbabwe:
1 comment · »»The streets are empty. The state has retreated. So has the opposition. All we are left with are their torn posters, pasted over each other in a confusing collage of symbols and slogans.
We also have their space-fillers. Riot police aimlessly walk the streets, batons in belts like forgotten cellphones. Or sometimes unconsciously swung in the air like a stick-picked-up-on-a-path. They walk the streets like the thousands of unemployed H-town youths. Space-fillers. Like the pothole-filling youths who have taken over the suburban streets. Stopping traffic, asking for donations, filling potholes. Unhindered.

During a well-advertised event, Ecuador has joined other countries that offer free distribution of information and content under the guidance of licenses called Creative Commons. Delegations from Colombia, Argentina, Mexico, Chile, Venezuela, Peru, Brazil, Ecuador, El Salvador, Costa Rica, Honduras, Dominican Republic and Cuba arrived the day before the event to take part in the 2nd CREAD Andes Congress and the 2nd VIRTUAL EDUCA Summit, where they discussed the quality of distance education. Also present were 26 experts from 4 continents Europe, Asia, America and Africa.
The launching of Creative Commons (CC) Ecuador was scheduled to be part of this meeting and was organized by the Loja's Technical University (UTPL), member of CREAD. After months of hard work, mentors Juan José Puertas Ortega and Carlos Correa Loyola saw their hard work pay off.
GVO has been following the events as Eduardo Avila posted on this posts here and here..
Creative Commons 3.0 [es] in Ecuador, is the 45th jurisdiction worldwide to adopt the Creative Commons licensing and according to the press release, they are “interested in promoting cultural production and research, so we have taken the initiative to launch the Creative Commons licenses as an alternative to ‘all-rights-reserved’ copyright. To achieve this, we have been going through a process of adapting the international license to our legislation, in discussions both public and private, and we have worked together with our community stakeholders and notable representatives in the field of copyright to reach a public presentation of its launch.” More can be read in the new Scripta (pdf).
For those Ecuadorans who couldn't attend the launch of the CC Ecuador were able to follow the developments, Loja's Technical University website Open UTPL [es] contains more information. For some videos about the all progress of what we are reporting, please head over to the university's YouTube Channel..
As we said at the beginning most of Ecuadoran bloggers supported this process, which started on March 10, 2008. Nelson Piedra along with Palulo were live blogging the ceremony which was followed by hundreds of people not only in Latin America but worldwide. Here the first reaction of local blogosphere:
Angel Gualán [es] a blogger and also member of Saraguro's community says the CC Ecuador was entirely sucessful:
Con total satisfacción se cumplió el lanzamiento de Creative Commons Ecuador, para ver la cronología del evento aqui en el blog de Nelson Piedra.
With total satisfaction was fulfilled the Creative Commons's launch, Ecuador chapter; to see the chronology of the event here in Nelson Piedra's blog.
Blogger and Creative Commons user, Palulo [es] was quick to liberate the content of his blog:
Todos los creadores de arte, blogs, etc. de Ecuador están llamados a compartir sus creaciones o ceder ciertos derechos de ellas, todo en bien por crecer juntos y generar más conocimiento.
Ecuador's creators of art, blogs, etc. All of them are called to share their creations or to yield certain rights of it, everything for the benefit of growing together and generating more knowledge.
The Blog of the Department of Educational Information Technology of Loja National University says:
…Estamos por buen camino con lo de otros paises llevan en lo relacionado a la Web 2.0, e-learning, EVA, etc……..Un deber como docente es compartir con todos ustedes nuestra experiencia.
We are doing well, same as the other countries that are pursuing and relating to the Web 2.0, e - learning, VLE, etc … ….. The duty as a teacher is to share with everyone your experience.

Logo of the launching of Creative Commons 3.0 -Ecuador.
2 comments · »»Ethiopian bloggers rushed to the defence of their country's top pop singer Teddy Afro, after he appeared in court charged with the hit-and-run killing of a youth in capital Addis Ababa.
Many writers were convinced Afro was being framed by Ethiopian authorities who, they said, resented the singer's huge popularity and veiled anti-government lyrics.
Afro was first questioned by police in November 2006 after a homeless 18-year-old was killed by a car in the centre of Addis Ababa. Officers reportedly claimed Afro's BMW had been spotted at the scene by a taxi driver.
His fans were taken by surprise when Afro was arrested, charged and remanded in custody last week, two years after the original incident. The mainstream media described how fans staged protests outside the court room where a judge decided to postpone a bail hearing.
Teddy Afro - real name Tewodros Kassahun - is hugely popular among Ethiopians in and outside the country. His hit song Yasteseryal (hear a clip on his official site teddyafro.com) - which many say criticises a line of Ethiopian leaders including current prime minister Meles Zenawi - was reportedly banned on state controlled radio.
Merkato published an entry by Golto Aila titled Ethiopia - “My Solidarity Forum” for Teddy Afro - An Ethiopian Hero & a Prisoner of Conscience which stated:
This advocate of justice for our people; this voice for the voiceless; this champion of the oppressed; this ultimate entertainer could have lived in luxury abroad and enjoyed life as most of us do, but knowing the risk to his own life, he returned home to continue the mission he has set for himself! Today he sits in the notorious Kaliti Prison, precisely because of what he does for his down-trodden compatriots! The humiliation he has suffered so far and will continue to suffer hence will be the most poignant symbol of our peoples' suffering for the last two decades!
Debteraw Blog mentioned Afro in a list of “political prisoners” in the entry Tensae Le-Ethiopia.
Addis Tibeb wrote in Teddy Afro arrested:
Many fans believe that Teddy is set up for the charge by the government that is supposed to resent Teddy’s public acceptance in his political reprimands by some of his songs
Arefe of Addis Journal stopped short of describing his own opinion of the case, but described the scenes outside the court in Court adjourns Teddy's hearing:
hundreds of cheering and chanting fans had greeted Teddy's arrival. Wearing a T-shirt and sunglasses, Teddy waved as he slowly made his way into the courthouse. As he left the court, the ‘free him' shout became more intense and police surrounded and arrested some of them. A journalist for Hamrawai magazine and another newspaper reporter were among the arrested. It's unclear why police arrested them. It was said they are all detained in the police station in front of the court…
Teddy's arrest weeks ago has generated much interest and anxiety in the city and his songs have enjoyed sudden popularity in the bars, taxis and public places.
freeteddyafro left a message on esai the forum run by The Ethiopian Students Association International:
It is hard to know if Teddy's (imprisonment) is motivated by politics or it is a following judicial process. Teddy is the symbol of Ethiopian new and future generation. He is a bridge for the past, present and future. He is an idol for young generation. Let us bring Teddy to daylight before he disappears forever.
esai commenter Ethiopia said he was convinced Afro was innocent and feared for his chances of a fair trial:
I DONT believe Teddy IS BOTH INHUMAN to leave a dead street kid laying on the ground AND DUMB enough to stay in the country for two years.
Samuel Gebru sounded a lone voice of caution, calling on people not to politicise Afro's case in Ethiopia: Teddy Afro's imprisonment:
7 comments · »»Some Ethiopians abroad have tried to capitalize his imprisonment, pending a bail hearing, as the Government's bid to silence the iconic singer…there's a long way ahead before the verdict, so whatever is said abroad is mere speculation. Nevertheless, the politicization of his arrest is not only false but unhealthy in our developing political climate in Ethiopia.
On May 10th 2008 at 18:00 GMT, 24 films will be broadcast during a 4 hour event. What makes this different is that this event, PangeaDay will be broadcast from six locations worldwide in seven different languages worldwide to be viewed through internet, television or cellphones with one unique purpose: to make each other know about the lives of others and focus on what makes us similar, instead of what makes us different and let us work together towards peace. This initiative came from Egyptian filmmaker Jehane Noujaim's wish. As a TED Prize winner she was granted a wish in addition to a $100 000 USD award. PangeaDay is her wish, to change the world and create a day in which people of the world could come together through film. Her 2006 acceptance speech can be found here.
Because PangeaDay is about bringing people together, an invitation made for audiences to upload their own videos on the pangeaday video channel where you can view the 1037 videos people uploaded in reply.
As an example, one of the uploaded videos is about an Art student in Tanzania, telling his story of his day to day life and how he wants to teach homeless kids about art. Following, the story of Chado by jamesstephenbrown:
The logistics of PangeaDay are awe inspiring: from Cairo, Kigali, London, Los Angeles, Mumbai and Rio de Janeiro, films, live music and speakers will come together to inspire the whole world. The films chosen have been selected from more than 25000 films from over 100 hundred countries.These movies all share some characteristics such as being able to inspire, transform and enabling us to experience life through another's eyes. Queen Noor of Jordan, will be one of the speakers, along with musician and activist Bob Geldorf, Christiane Amanpour from CNN and the Iranian rock group Hypernova. While at these locations people will be getting together, all around the world parties and groups of friends can sign up and show that they will be tuned in: you can attend an open event in your hometown or even host your own.
However, Pangea Day isn't just about getting together during 4 hours. The idea is for the event to get people inspired, talking and making changes. It has also allowed others to participate not only as viewers. Through partner organization Nokia, aspiring filmmakers in different locations throughout the world have been given video enabled mobile devices to some people in rural areas, refugee camps, and film schools, so they too can portray their stories. People can also upload their own videos for a chance to win a Nokia N95 8GB mobile device. This partnership brings us a Myanmar refugee in India recording children's laughter, an Iranian family in a refugee camp in Afghanistan recording their idea of Hope, and an Indian in Bangalore filming the cutting down of Banyan trees… and children planting new trees. You can view these and other videos on this page.
So there are many different ways to participate. Don't miss the chance to be a part of this and make sure to tell others and spread the word.
7 comments · »»Yesterday, the CIA released footage of an alleged Syrian North-Korean-built nuclear reactor. The footage “exploded” all over the news.
The story started with an Israel air strike on an unknown target in the Syrian northern desert in September 2007. Speculations about a possible nuclear cooperation between Syria and North Korea has been floating since then. But both Israel and the US have kept an official policy of secrecy over the target, until yesterday.
Syrian officials have repeatedly denied the allegations. And the IAEA was highly critical of the US and Israel for concealing the information until now, and for referring to force before giving the UN a chance to confirm the information.
Syrian bloggers have been very skeptical about the contents of the footage, almost everybody still remembers the confidence with which Collin Powell briefed the UN about Iraq's never-to-be-found WMDs.
Joshua Landis rounds up media reactions on the footage, and comments on America's “Shoot-first-and-ask-questions-later” policy.
The second criticism of the CIA's effort was to argue that Washington should not be encouraging Israel to launch bombing raids without first going through legal channels, international agencies, and peaceful alternatives. Shoot-first-and-ask-questions-later policies are sure to undermine US legitimacy in the eyes of the international community. They will do nothing to dispel Arab anger at US and Israeli arrogance. On the contrary, the propensity to use force as a first option will convince others to do the same.
Sasa from The Syria News Wire, tries to put the accusations in their international context, and wonders why did they wait this long to release such “important” information.
There's nothing new here. These accusations were leveled when Israel destroyed a building in Syria with an air raid last September. Now the US has produced photographic ‘evidence' and given it to the UN nuclear agency. But they're not happy - the IAEA is furious at the delay in handing these photos over.
So why the delay? Look at the timing. It comes on the day America is about to finish negotiating with North Korea. And it comes two days after Israel revealed it was willing to return the whole Occupied Golan Heights in return for a peace treaty with Syria.
And finally, we stop at Ihsan's, where he also seems highly skeptical of any concrete facts behind the allegations, but raises another issue: Whatever is the purpose of that building, we seem to have a case of high treason. “Have some heads rolled in Damascus over this or not?” he asks.
3 comments · »»The photos were not just taken from a satellite; in fact, the most compelling photos were taking from within, outside, and few meters away from the building and during different phases of its construction. Whoever took them was available on site and did not just sneak some peaks from afar. The alleged extreme secrecy surrounding the “project” would naturally suggest extreme security measures and “no cameras allowed” signs all over the place. Yet, the person(s) took the shots was pretty comfortable judging from the angles of the photos. This means one of two things, it has never been a top secret covert location as claimed and anyone could get there, or the presence of a huge fat rat among or a friend of the elite and most trusty people who were in charge of it. I, however, lean toward the latter.

The state-run Xinhua news agency reported Friday that “in view of the requests repeatedly made by the Dalai side for resuming talks, the relevant department of the central government will have contact and consultation with Dalai private representative in the coming days.”
The report which was promptly copied by China's portal websites provoked another new round of discussion and controversy on Dalai Lama among the Chinese netizens.
In Sohu.com, within a few hours more than 8000 people have made comments on the news:
作者:江西省网友
发表于:2008-04-25 16:17:19
拿出点骨气来!!要谈也到奥运后,这个时候偏不理睬他!!!
Author:netizen from Jiangxi Province
Posted on:2008-04-25 16:17:19
Stand up for yourself a bit!!Put off the talk until the end of the Olympics, if at all. Just ignore him at present!!!
作者:北京市网友
发表于:2008-04-25 17:50:18
可以对话,主权问题绝不容妥协!!!
Author:netizen from Beijing
Posted on:2008-04-25 17:50:18
It's OK to hold a dialog, but never compromise on the issues concerning state sovereignty!!!
作者:深圳市网友
发表于:2008-04-25 18:16:31
支持谈,都是中国人,当然可以谈.只要在我们的原则在,他们可以来道歉.承认错误,可以给他们个机会.
Author:netizen from Shenzhen
Posted on:2008-04-25 18:16:31
Support for the dialog. Because we are all Chinese, we can certainly have a talk with each other. On the premise of our principle, we can give them a chance to apologize and admit their error.
作者:温州市网友
发表于:2008-04-25 18:29:56
维护统一,反对对话,反对妥协,反对让步,坚决打击达赖集团
Author:netizen from Wenzhou
Posted on:2008-04-25 18:29:56
Safeguarding unity, opposing dialog, opposing compromise, opposing concessions, the Dalai Clique should be resolutely cracked down.
作者:常德市网友
发表于:2008-04-25 19:42:55
沟通可以,磋商也行,但只能在祖国的土地上。
Author:netizen from Changde
Posted on:2008-04-25 19:42:55
It's OK to have a talk or consultation with him, but it can only take place on the motherland.
作者:北京市网友
发表于:2008-04-25 21:47:54
向巴平措回忆2002年接待达赖代表说道:至于我们同达赖谈什么,主权问题不容谈,这是铁板钉钉的;人权问题,达赖没有资格谈。达赖主政的时候,西藏人权是个什么样子,大家都清楚。要谈,就谈达赖的前途,这是我个人的看法。
支持支持支持支持支持支持!!!!!!
Author:netizen from Beijing
Posted on:2008-04-25 21:47:54
When Qiangba Puncog recalled the moment that he met Dalai's representative in 2002, he said: as to what we would talk with Dalai, it's clear that the question of sovereignty is not open to discussion. Dalai has no right to talk about human rights. The human rights situation in Tibet under Dalai's rule is apparent to everyone. My personal opinion is if there is a dialog, the only topic is Dalai's future.
Support!Support! Support! Support! Support! Support!
作者:唐山市网友
发表于:2008-04-25 22:13:06
对话总比对抗强!希望双方都进一步妥协,49年了,亲兄弟有什么隔阂也应坐下心平气和的对话,希望达赖喇嘛尽早重返拉萨。全国名族大团结万岁!
Author:netizen from Tangshan
Posted on:2008-04-25 22:13:06
Dialog is always better than confrontation! Hope the both sides can further compromise with each other. It has been 49 years and no matter how serious the estrangement is, brothers must sit down and have a calm and sensible talk. Hope Dalai Lama can return Lhasa as soon as possible. Long live the great unity of the Chinese nation!
作者:美国网友
发表于:2008-04-25 22:58:52
对话是解决问题的最佳途径,对少数民族我们更要放下身段好好谈一谈,这样就有利于民族和解。达赖公开宣称自己是中国人,而且告诉藏人要以北京奥运为荣,我们至少要肯定他这一点。与达赖对话是中央政府成熟、明智、自信的表现。
肖吾省
Author:netizen from US
Posted on:2008-04-25 22:58:52
Dialog is the best way to solve problems. For the promotion of National Reconciliation, we must get off our high horse so as to have a good talk with the minority people. Dalai has openly proclaimed he is a Chinese and told the Tibetans to take pride in Beijing Olympics, so we should at least approve him at this point. Talking with Dalai shows the maturity, wisdom and confidence of the central government.
Xiao Wuxing
作者:西安市网友
发表于:2008-04-25 22:59:56
政府这样做是对的!一味的强硬态度对双方都不好.毕竟藏族是个几乎全民信教的民族,而达籁拉嘛又是众多信众的精神领袖.在维护国家统一,主权完整,废除奴隶制,保持社会安定,保护和发展民生福祉的前提下,听取不同的声音和要求,是负责任政府的表现.
不论是什么民族,不论是什么人,只要是认同中华大家庭,我们就要想法子去争取他!
祝中华民族和睦团结!祝中央之国早日一统!
Author:netizen from Xian
Posted on:2008-04-25 22:59:56
It's right for the government to do so! A rigid attitude benefits neither side; After all, Tibetans are mainly religious people and Dalai Lama is the spiritual leader of most of them. On the premise of national unity, sovereignty integrity, abolition of slavery, social stability and preservation and development of people's livelihood, it's responsible for the government to listen to the different voices and demands.
No matter which people, no matter who, as long as he identify with multi-ethnic family of China, we will try to win him over!
Wish the Chinese nation fraternal unity!Wish that the complete reunification of China can be achieved at an early date!
作者:无锡市网友
发表于:2008-04-26 07:58:34
谈不妥的,我可以断定,达赖是不会放弃自己的立场的。打达赖就得像打狗一样,把他打得摇尾怜。
Author:netizen from Wuxi
Posted on:2008-04-26 07:58:34
I bet the negotiations will break down, because Dalai will not renounce his stand. We need to beat Dalai like a dog until he grovels before us.
作者:广州市网友
发表于:2008-04-26 08:37:45
这是中央政府在向西方社会妥协,是在向欧美妥协,软弱的中央政府!!!达赖必须承认一个中国,不分裂才能谈!
Author:netizen from Guangzhou
Posted on:2008-04-26 08:37:45
The central government is appearing to bend to the western world; it's a concession to Europe and America; how weak the central government is!!!Dalai must firstly acknowledge the One-China Principle and stop activities to split motherland before the talk.
作者:加拿大网友
发表于:2008-04-26 08:39:33
一直不知道达赖是什么想法?他的政治主张是什么?中央政府应该让人民知道。分裂祖国是不得人心的,政治清明我们也关注!
Author:netizen from Canada
Posted on:2008-04-26 08:39:33
People don't know Dalai Lama's views?What are his political opinions? The central government must let people know that. Splitting motherland is unpopular, but we also concern the political probity!
作者:河池市网友
发表于:2008-04-26 08:47:18
达赖已是法国人,反对同其商谈。
Author:netizen from Hechi
Posted on:2008-04-26 08:47:18
Dalai has become French. Oppose talking with him.
作者:淄博市网友
发表于:2008-04-26 08:57:18
与其磋商也要其承担刑事责任,他教唆他的喽罗们杀了那么多人,给国家造成那么大的损失,不能就这么算了。一定要将达赖之流绳之以法。不杀达赖不足以平民愤!
Author:netizen from Zibo
Posted on:2008-04-26 08:57:18
Dalai shall be prosecuted for his criminal liability even we accept to consult with him. He has abetted his underlings to kill so many people, causing such great damage to the state. We can't let it go at that. Fellows like Dalai must be brought to the justice. Dalai has to be executed to assuage the people's anger!
Netease blogger Zhi Kuanyou also gave an immediate response to the unexpected news:
今晚我注意到了一条消息:
中央政府有关部门准备同达赖方面磋商。更让我纳闷的是,在网易发布这条消息的时候,竟然一条网语的评语都没有,看来是没有勇气面对全国的国民呀。在此之前,我们的中央政府把达赖批得体无完肤,魔鬼一个,引得我们可爱的国民喊杀一片。现在我们的中央政府却要和达赖磋商了,太让人哭笑不得了。
更为客气的是,前些时候我写有关达赖的短文不得不用DL来代替达赖,否则我的博客根本通不过网络警察的审查,其实我也就完整地转述达赖近期在国外对媒体发表的看法,就是这样也很不容易通过审查呀。
我们老是说西方媒体的不公正给中国人民造成了伤害,试问我们的媒体又给达赖多少公正呢?
可喜的是,中国政府正朝着正确的方向了望了。
This evening I noticed a piece of news:
The relevant department of the central government will have contact and consultation with Dalai side.
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What made me disconsolate was when Netease published the report, not a comment was visible after the news. It looks the government doesn't have courage to face the whole nation. Before that, our central government had criticized Dalai to shreds and devil, provoking a tide of battle-cry against him from our lovely people. Now our central government is going to consult with Dalai. It's really ironic.
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Earlier, what annoyed me more was I had to use DL instead of Dailai when I wrote something about him, otherwise my blog would not pass the Internet police's censorship at all. In fact, I just completely retold some of Dalai's recent airing views in the foreign media, but even so, it's still very difficult to pass the censorship.
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We always keep criticizing the western media's injustice which has harmed Chinese people, but how much justice have our media given Dalai?
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The good thing is Chinese government is heading in the right direction.
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