Kosovo's declaration of independence from Serbia on Sunday, Feb. 17, has caused both celebrations and protests - as well as plenty of media coverage and an avalanche of blog posts.
Below is a selection of some Anglophone bloggers' views (Elia Varela Serra's earlier Global Voices roundup on Kosovo is here).
Prishtine: Independence and Kanun is celebrating and taking “tons of pics” (but hasn't posted any of her own yet):
Less than 2 hours away from the eventual announcement. I wish I could feed you a live video feed but I am not that tech savy … It's a regional party and apparently, everyone is invited. […] No politics talk today. I just want to be happy for a people who seem happy. […]
***
[…] and the party is on…. please, be careful with the “happy shooting”. […]
Living in Shkoder and Stepping Stones report on the celebrations taking place in Albania.
Ed Alexander of Balkan Baby writes:
[…] Today is a celebration, a country is born. Kosova has played its part with the utmost of humility and today is a reward and recompense for the trials which preceded it. There will be countless problems which the new Republic of Kosova will encounter but there is no doubt that with the same determination that has brought them independence anything can be overcome. There will be time for analyses in coming days, but for now, as is always the case with events that truly define our history, it is best to watch them unfold. […]
Viktor Marković of Belgrade 2.0 reports on and posts video footage of the rioting in Serbia's capital:
Except for the broken windows, destroyed public property in front of the [U.S. embassy] and several mildly bruised antiriot policemen, due to the stones and flares throwing, nothing big happened. Group of mostly younger people, probably football hoolingans, tried to enter the embassy at one point, but all they managed to do is to break all the windows and a gate.
[…]
Slovenian embassy is, as I understand from the news, heavily damaged.
Viktor is also posting updates on Twitter; here's one of the latest mini-reports:
McDonallds restaurant destroyed, some reports say hooligan groups heading towards mosque […]
Here are some of Viktor's earlier reflections on Kosovo's independence:
[…] Our prime minister says that European Union, together with the US will “kidnap” a part of Serbia. But the reality is, Kosovo is not going anywhere, Albanians are not really going to take the part of the land and carry it over to a whole different place, as the word “kidnap” suggests. The border will stay where it was, with probably the same crossing fluency. Monasteries will stay where they are, hopefully. The name will change, instead of “Kosovo province” it will become something completely different – are you ready? wait for it… (drumroll) – “Kosovo”.
But the biggest question remains as it has been for the last eight years – non-Albanians’ safety and the right to live and move freely in Kosovo. In the future, this issue will be the responsibility of Albanians only, since our prime minister and our politicians have done very little to show that they care about the people as much as they care about the territory, monasteries and the name. […]
Jasmina Tešanović, guest-blogging at Boing Boing, writes:
[…] Last week in Geneva, I talked to a young Albanian blogger. He told me: this time “independence” will be declared for real, because it is not our independent decision but that of the world community. Nobody asks us anything anymore. They just give us orders and set rules.
Most young Serbian people have never visited Kosovo. There is nor reason to go to Kosovo if you are not trapped in Kosovo already. It is a hard place. Since the fall of national Yugoslav radio and television, Serbian has fallen out of use there. The Serbs never bothered to learn Albanian.
[…]
The last sentence in my 1999 diary was: I hope they don't build a wall. Today I must say the same: I hope the Serbian population in Kosovo survives, and I hope they don t build a wall: them, us, their armies, our armies, foreign armies.
[…]
May it be a beginning of new era; may our children never have another war with their neighbors just because they speak a different language and have a different sign on their graves. The Balkans have always been a multiethnic territory. No matter who wins the battle, nobody will be able to win a war.
Alan Jakšić of Balkan Anarchist is worried about the fate of Kosovo Serbs, too:
[…] Personally, I'm mostly worried about the Kosovo Serbs, my fellow ethnics in the province who live as a beleaguered minority. I hope that they will stay in the province and maintain links with the perhaps soon-to-be reduced Serbia, and not leave in great number from their homes and villages. However, I have seen on the news that the UN is already prepared to offer aid to these could-be future refugees in the north of the province.
One idea I heard the Serbian president Boris Tadić mention is a possible Kosovo Serb parliament to represent all the Serbs in the province. I think this could be a good idea, as such an institution could make the province's Serbs feel represented by a major institution whose members they would be able to elect. And as such, it could provide Serbs with the reassurance they need to stay in Kosovo. […]
Eric Gordy of East Ethnia writes:
[…] Some people will undoubtedly be celebrating the event, but it will take serious and committed work to assure that the new situation means something more than jobs for a new crowd of politicians. I am neither thrilled nor outraged, but rather think that what matters most is how the problems that have been left from the past and the new ones that are going to be generated are going to be addressed. Kosovo and Serbia are both now states, and each one has the opportunity now to show that it has the capacity to behave like a responsible one. […]
Dejan of Anegdote is being serious in a non-serious kind of way. He has re-posted a photoshopped image of PM Vojislav Koštunica as a contestant in the Who Wants to Be a Millionaire? quiz show (uploaded from a Serbian-language forum with a mystifyingly telling name of Parapsihopatologija - “Parapsychopathology”) - and has translated the question and four answer choices:
Kosovo is…
A. Serbia [Koštunica's pick]
B. independent [correct answer]
C. less than independent
D. more than autonomous
Hugh Griffiths, on his B92 blog, explains why the current rioting in Belgrade may signify the “imminent departure” of PM Koštunica:
[…] For the first part, shouting offensive remarks about Albanians while crying “Kosovo is Serbia” in one breath, and support for mass murderer Ratko Mladic in the next is a general blow to the “international law” themed PR that's been doing the DSS rounds. Burning cars, attacking police, smashing traffic signs and punching journalists while waving the Serbian flag does no favours to what some refer to as the “branding” process and others call “national pride”.
[…] what really signals Vojo's imminent departure, bar some more wailing, is what the ne'er do-well flag wavers were chanting.
“Save Serbia and kill yourself, Kostunica”
[…]
Why this should worry the current leader of the party of international law, is that despite pandering to the views of ignorant extremists, Kostunica has lost their support. And by betraying the DS over not endorsing Tadic for president, Kostunica has finally irrevocably alienated the more decent with whom he was in coalition with. […]
Having made his premiership about hanging onto both Kosovo and [Montenegro], and failing to do either; making enemies out of all these king-makers means that he will be removed in the not too distant. Unlike Djindjic, this will be a democratic process, but history will be none too kind.
In an earlier post, Hugh Griffiths writes about two rallies that took place in Belgrade last week, prior to Kosovo's declaration of independence:
[…] The latest two demonstrations in Belgrade continue to present a vision of two very different Serbias. The first, on the February 11 would not look out of place in any European capital: a civic procession with peaceful purpose, smiling faces but a serious message, cheerful whistles and drums, good humour and witty posters. A pretty girl kissing a policeman. Good street theatre in a capital city moving forward.
This was a youth demonstration in support of Serbia's integration into Europe, an event backed by more than 70% of Serbia's population and a majority of those who bothered to vote in the presidential elections, despite the Kosovo red herring.
Then there was a second protest on 16 February. Around 1000 people demonstrating for the Kosovo red herring. A small, yet violently vocal group of misfits. […]
In the comments section to this post, one Serbian reader (badreligion) responds:
neither of two is mine
Both rallies represent extremes, and I find it hard to identify with either.
I just wonder why do all the foreigners see us Serbs so black and white? It seems one has to shout his head off or blow his bollocks through the wistle to be heard… There are some quiet and disgusted people here as well, you know. Those are people who are pro EU and against independent Kosovo.
Lucy Moore, on her B92 blog, criticizes John Bolton, former U.S. representative to the U.N, for a remark he made at “The Implications of Kosovo’s Independence for U.S. Foreign Policy” event in Washington, D.C., last Friday:
Calling Kosovo’s pending independence a “fundamentally European solution,” he noted that independence for Kosovo came out of not one but two instances in which the authority of the U.N.’s Security Council was largely dismissed — first in NATO’s 1999 air strike and now in the current failure by the international community to back a change in Kosovo’s status with a U.N. resolution.
And in a moment of bold directness, Bolton told any European citizen sitting in the audience to take this message back to Europe:
“It should be a long time before any of you criticize action without Security Council authorization.”
Wonderful. South Eastern Europe is again on the cusp of destabilization. What democratic headway Serbia had made has been kicked into reverse. Europe must now find a way to incorporate an economic wasteland into its already strained folds. And all Mr. Bolton — once America’s voice at the UN — has to say is America may have F*ck up but we're not alone. […]
Douglas Muir of A Fistful of Euros comments on Kosovo's prospects of being recognized internationally:
[…] As for international recognition: somewhere between 20 and 30 countries are poised to recognize Kosovo pretty quickly, with a larger number inclined to recognize but planning to wait a bit. There’ll probably be a UN Security Council meeting next week, which will lead to much discussion but nothing concrete.
So, unless Serbia does something stupid — which is certainly possible — in the short run, not much will change. In the longer run, well, I’ve used the phrase “Balkan Taiwan” before. It’s not very close; really, Kosovo is unique. But I expect a long war of diplomatic attrition rather than a crisis. Again, we’ll see soon enough.
Mark MacKinnon writes about the precedent-setting element of Kosovo's independence and the “Pandora's Box” effect it may lead to in Eastern Europe - and, as a reader points out in a comment, elsewhere in the world:
[…] My point here is not to argue for or against independence for Kosovo. But I do find myself wondering how the United States and the European Union find it reasonable to argue that the Kosovars deserve the right to determine their own fate, Serbia be damned, but other peoples of Eastern Europe in similar situations do not.
If Kosovo's unilateral declaration of independence is going to get the support of the international community, let's make the right of national self-determination the new global standard. Let's set about determining the real will of the Abkhaz and the South Ossetians and back open and fair (not Russian-sponsored) referendums on whether they want to remain in Georgia. Then let's help them enforce the results.
Hell, while we're at it, let's do the same for the Transdniestr, the Respublika Srpska , Chechnya and the Crimea. If we're going to open this Pandora's Box in Eastern Europe, let's open it all the way. […]
While MacKinnon mentions Russia's foreign ministry's allusion to Abkhazia and South Ossetia in its last week's statement on Kosovo's independence, James of Robert Amsterdam's blog reports on Vladimir Putin's remarks on Kosovo and Spain's Basque and Catalan regions:
When Russia speaks out against recognizing Kosovo's independence, there are quite a few feathers to ruffle among other EU members that have separatist issues of their own. It appears that President Vladimir Putin struck a chord in making the Spanish comparison. […]
[...] Voices Online está haciendo un interesante seguimiento de la repercusión en la blogosfera de la declaración de independencia de Kosovo. A mis [...]
[...] GlobalVoicesOnline.org for more Kosovo independence blog stories. 作者：ilya，時間：12:24 pm [...]
Recognition of Kosovo’s UDI will be a victory for terrorism and apartheid.
Did the world recognise Smith’s UDI in Rhodesia?
Did the US and Britain recognise the independence of Bophuthatswana and Transkei?
What has happened to change things?
[...] Voices Online está haciendo un seguimiento de las repercusiones en la blogosfera de la declaración de independencia [Vía Mangas Verdes] ENTRADAS [...]
[...] separatistas desde Osetia del Sur, en Georgia, hasta Quebec en Canadá. En Serbia, muchos no le perdonan a Kostunica haber dejado ir a Montenegro y permitido lo de [...]
I wish that all people that want their own country could have their wish. I wish the Kurds could have Kurdistan. The Taiwanese could have Taiwan. The Tibetans could have Tibet. etc. But there’s always some larger, more powerful country that wants to stop them. Kosovo is an exception.
1939,once again
Yes, the decade-long apartheid rule of Kosovo in the 1989-1999 period culminating in the ethnic cleansings of 1999 was horrible.
Serbia is just as profoundly incapable of living with large ethnic minorities as, well, Kosovar Albanians. It’s best to separate the two populations, giving each their own homeland, and let things percolate from there.
A point of view from a Slovenian on my blog.
THE PROCLAMATION OF KOSOVO METOHIA INDEPENDENCE IS CRIMINAL AND AGAINST INTERNATIONAL LAW!
I support the political freedom of Kosovo…., it’s long overdue.I salute the courage of the newest sovereign’nationalists for their doggednes and political bravado and will power.It’s independence will be preserved, not because the Super USA is backing it but because kosovo and Serbians are strange bed fellows.
With it’s declaration of indepence on Sunday, 17th February, 2008, Kosovo becomes a Sovereing State having the legitimacy in fact and in law to enjoy the all the “blessings” attached to the status of a sovereign State in the comity of nations.
Congratulations Kosovo!Congatulations Freedom-loving minds!!!
neka vam je sa srecom,sa vasim amerikancima, necete dugo
Serbs, they attaked Slovenia,Croacia,Bosnia and Kosovo.They used same plan in all the wars.They thought they could do same thing they did during the War2.Transporting hundrid of thousands Kosovars to Macedonia and Albania.Tey were wrong they dident count on U S A. Serbs never thought that U S A will cross the Atlantic with its Gigantic army just to free 3 Milion KOSOVARS.Serbs say we Kosovars are weak, we dont have a army. I agree to this .We dont have an army but we have something which is stronger than their army.Brain we have it and we used it. You dont face an Elephant withaut a gun do you?.Serbs are like that, they might have big power but they dont have a brain.That’s why they lost all 4 Wars, theyved started even thout they had the 3 rd largest army in Europe.Wen Serbia started spreding Lies U S A did this to Mute the lies serbian TV station 1998.Serbs say we are Terririt but is it real?Since when did U S A & NATO helpet Terrorist?Damn weare and we were never something like Terorist.America knows us very well.THANKS GOD we are with you ”U.S.A”
You see serbs, at the end i dont hate you, youre just stupid and mental peaple.Try to forget the name war and learn the meaning of pece.Try this plise , it might help you to get life without killing your neighburs. GOD BLESS AMERICA ;VICTORY IS OURS.THANKYOU
[...] recent declaration of independence results from the failure of both sides to reach common grounds over diplomatic talks. [...]
I wholeheartedly support the independence of Kosovo.
Congratulations to the independence.
As a Croatian who jad family in Croatia wo suffered in Vukovar at tha hands of the Serbain Chetnik Terrorists, I sympathize with the Albanians from Kosovo.
Serbia must learn not to attack and claim foreign land as their land.
ZIVJELO NEOVISNO KOSOVO
LONG LIVE INDEPENDENT FREE DEMOCRATIC KOSOVO
RNOFT KOSOVA E PAVARUR !!!!
_________________
http://www.croradio.net
24 Hour Croatian Music Streaming
Bog i Hrvati !
Dok je srca bit ce i Kroacije
AGM
The US I believe has turned into a cheerleader for anything to do with liberty. Take Kosovo and the unilateral decision for its independence. America backed a neocolonolialism, which is a rather empty, uninformed decision on their behalf.
In my opinion, America has lots its credibility and importance in world affairs, because the hypocrisy of their black and white advocacy for anything liberty stinks.
If Texas became disillusioned with America and wanted a unilateral separation, and declared independence, how would America feel having a nation named Texas? What right do they have to carry that name and sovereignty?
This issue relates to the Macedonian name dispute. The difference is that politics have been allowed to negotiate the process regarding Macedonia, which is far more credible. Whether America supports Macedonia or Greece however is now irrelevant.
America is out of touch
Congratulation Kosova!!!
Red and black i dress eagle on my chest, is great to be an albanian, with my head up hight for the flag i die, its good to be an albanian.
Finally the justice said its words.
Its a great feeling to be officialy separated from serbia.
A special thank to all American people and others for making this dream come true.
for serbs, no comment.
The self-granting of Independence may set in motion an unwelcome precedent. Europe has bent over backwards by empowering Kosovo as it emerges as the world’s newest sovereign state. There is no-doubt, in my mind, that the former province of Yugoslavia was badly treated by Serbia but, whether Kosovo is actually ‘fit’ for self-rule is highly conjectural. It shouldn’t go unsaid, either, that the two million ethnic Albanian citizens who remain did, in turn, ill-treat the hundreds of thousands of remaining Serbs living within Kosovan borders since the end of the NATO campaign in 1999 to end Milosevic’s ethnic cleansing and campaign of genocide.
Kosovo has a reputation as a major people and drug-smuggling hub. The continent is riddled with a burgeoning black economy in narcotics; it distinctly lacks an effective police force. It is known too, that Kosovan gangsters have staged rapid infiltrations of the sex trade in London, human trafficking from Eastern Europe in filling the brothels of Soho. Their Diaspora – the spreading of their own language and culture – has been through well established routes in Germany and Turkey, since Tito’s communist purges decades ago.
Geopolitically, Pristina’s politicians’ declaring ‘unilateral independence’ from Serbia has created a new tense fault-line across an already fragmented and ethnically fractured Balkans: a continent that is still recovering from the successive civil wars that ripped Yugoslavia apart during the 90s. Ignoring and flouting the wishes of a recalcitrant and powerless Serbia is one thing, defying a resurgent and powerful resource-rich Russia is quite another. Moscow’s rhetoric is powerful – it has hinted that it might retaliate by officially recognising ethnic enclaves such as Abkhazia which declared independence from Georgia in the early 1990s in conflicts that created the collapse of the Soviet Union. Moscow’s leverage could have wider implications as it may thwart US and EU influences over energy sources through Russia’s own back yard.
Conflict resolution is not necessarily achieved by throwing money at international problems. An ‘independent’ Kosovo will exist on EU subsidies and grants for a considerable period of time, since it doesn’t have a legal functioning economy outside of subsistence agriculture or mining deposits.
The security of Kosovo will continue to depend on 16,000 NATO and other troops. In addition, the EU is to draft in a temporary task force of up to 2,000 police and legal experts in an attempt to break the criminal underworlds that defies infiltration. What of protecting the interests of the isolated Serb enclaves in the south-east and the north-west of the country?
Instability is a real concern, particularly in the long-term. When Kosovo is being projected and used as a precedent by persuasive minorities, what is the price being made by Bosnian cohesion with Macedonia?
http://www.markatscotland.blogspot.com
if russia, china, or serbia gets to stupid, America will beat the shit out of them too(just liek how we do to every country that thinks that they are ready ti match us)
I don’t understand why this is being turned into a “God Bless America” or an “America will beat the shit out of any country”. The ignorance of trying to make this about the power demonstrated by the United States, is astounding. I can see both sides of this issue, however I do agree that we are opening Pandora’s box by supporting this.
I mean, how would “Americans” feel if the growing Latino poplation in Florida decided that they would like their own nation state? Would we want to let that go so easily? Yes, there isn’t the history of violence between the ethnic groups- but the concept is the same.
And as far as the tension between the Albanians and the Serbs goes- what is to happen to the 150,000 Serbs still living in Kosovo? Are they to become refugees?
Beka-
I didn’t notice that Serbs concord any country.
As far as recent wars I saw that there were
many Serb refugees pouring over to Serbia,not the other way around.Is all media.
Yes USA knows you ,that’s why they took an opportunity.
Yes NATO came to you,but just to abuse your land.
NOW that’s fine cause you can sell them your drugs and smoke a few joins and laugh with soldier,and they will return a favor.Safety.Sweet home Albanama.
However I agree with Andy,separation was only solution.
I congratulate you on your independence.
And say hi to your fellow NATO soldier,he should be better of home with his family.
They will miss him and his fat paycheck.
bamf-
Yeah,well that pretty much says everything about USA.
You’we been brainwashed lad and I’m afraid that you don’t have a pinch of will to see the truth.Read some books.
Ivica-
I understand your hatred,to some point.
Did it ever occur to you that there are two sides at war.
Do you think that Ustasas acctually helped Serbs?
What about “oluja” 1995? Did you had a serb friend?
How are you different from Serb hooligan nationalist smashing foreign embassy?Or Chetnik killing croats?
Croatia is neo-nazi today. Tudjman was a nazi.So what!
He’s not a Serb,they are the worst people walking on earth.But they are people and majority of them are not cetnik fans.You shouldn’t be proud,it kills people.
I bet you go to EXIT festival every year.
Freedom for all
“The independence of Kosovo has been recognized by a number of countries, and I’d like to remind you that the recognition of States is for the States and not for the UN Secretariat,” The future developments and operational structures in Kosovo will be carried out in accordance with Security Council’s resolution 1244.
UNSC Resolution 1244, adopted at the end of Kosovo’s 1998-1999 war, gave the disputed province “substantial autonomy” under Serbian sovereignty and gave a UN mission known as UNMIK a mandate to administer the province with NATO’s help.
Hi
I am from the UK, I give my full support to Serbian sovereignty over Kosovo. Europe (USA) have taken a part of another country and turned it over to Muslims who will one day take over Europe. This is just the beginning of the end for Europe.
Support Serbia
[...] February 21, 2008 At Global Voices Online, Veronica Khokhlova has posted a translation of Russophone reactions to Kosovo’s declaration of [...]
The United States and other United Nations members should not recognize so quickly as they had their own civil war where the Union was threatened. Will the U.S. recognize an Independant Quebec next when a seperatist government takes Quebec out of the Federation of Canada.
kosova must be recognised quiqly from all countrys that really know what the kosovan people has suffered from Serbian.
That will be a lesson to be learned for Serbs, still they do not accept the genocide they did against the inocent albanian people - they realy are out of date.
Jason
to Jason:
It’s Kosovo not Kosova.Although Albanian people are majority in Kosovo ,Kosovo was/is part of Serbia where Serbian people are majority.That’s a fact.So what the hell?
Today’s picture is really ugly but there are decent people there.Those are drunken fools and football support teams.Don’t be so global.Serbs also suffered for years.
Other minority groups suffered with them.What do you think what will happen to Serbs and non Albanians in Kosovo,now?Let me guess,they deserve to die.Or go home?
Where?
Maybe another NATO air action will fix it.
Let’s burn the bridges.It’s democracy we deliver.
USA is puppet master and Kosovars are on the strings.
This kind of freedom is really silly.
It hard and confusing
to chew on this one.World could tremble.
Few “innocent people” are leaders of new KOsovo state.
You can find anything interesting if you want to read it.
Cheers!
Jack Sparrow
NATO intelligence experts said:
” The bombing, they discovered, was highly accurate against fixed targets, like bunkers and bridges. “But we were spoofed a lot,” said one team member. The Serbs protected one bridge from the high-flying NATO bombers by constructing, 300 yards upstream, a fake bridge made of polyethylene sheeting stretched over the river. NATO “destroyed” the phony bridge many times. Artillery pieces were faked out of long black logs stuck on old truck wheels. A two-thirds scale SA-9 antiaircraft missile launcher was fabricated from the metal-lined paper used to make European milk cartons. “It would have looked perfect from three miles up,” said a MEAT analyst.”
worth a laugh.
Just wanted to add that USA offered Serbia to “sell” Kosovo for few thousand million dollars(?) and lightning fast EU integration.They key word was “to help”.What,incoming refugees!?
OK I WILL PLEASE PEOPLE WHO DON’T KNOW A LOT ABOUT HISTORY ON KOSOVO TO SHUP UP, BECAUSE ALL THEY KNOW WHAT THEY SEE ON NEWS, CNN, BBC… THEY DON’T HAVE RIGHT TO POST COMMENT,
ON FIRST PLACE IT WAS SERBIAN 1389. AND IN PAST 30-40 YEARS SERBIA ACCEPT ALBANIANS AND GIVE THEM ALL RIGHT LIKE SERBIANS (SOMETHING LIKE MEXICAN IN US) AND MUCH MORE THAN US OFFER TO FOREIGNERS NOW OR ANY OTHER COUNTRY…
WHAT HAPPENS, SO MANY ALBANIANS MOVE ON KOSOVO AND IN 90′S
SOMEBODY (GUESS WHO)LET FIRE THERE AND STAND ON ALBANIAN SIDE…WHY? BECAUSE THEY WANNA BEE EVERYWHERE WHERE IS SOME SITUATION TOO MAKE PEACE (HELL NO)
WHAT SERBIA TRY TO DO?! OFF COURSE TRY TO KEEP OWN TERRITORY AND THEN … WAR, US BOMBING SERBIA 3 MONTHS BECAUSE SERBIA STAY PROUD IN PLAN TO KEEP KOSOVO.
ABOUT KILLING I DONT’T WANNA TALK BUT IT START IN 80′S.
ALBANIAN KILL SERBS AND SERBS KILL ALBANIAN, REASON OFF THAT IS TOO LONG TO WRITE NOW IF YOU WANNA YOU CAN READ BOOKS ABOUT THAT.
ANYWAY I DO NOT SUPPORT KOSOVO OUT OF SERBIA.
ITS LIKE WASHINGTON OUT OF US ! ! !
I JUST WANNA PEACE AND NORMAL LIFE ON BALKAN AFTER 100 YEARS OF WAR AND SUFFERING ON BALKAN ! ! !
Hey what’s wrong with u people??? I think war its in your blood, stop it!!! Nobody who has freedom in his heart and mind can forget what serbs has done in Bosnia, Croatia, and Kosova! Open your eyes, remember the ethnic cleanising, the massive graves! And to Branko: Read Branko read, never stop reading (not written by serbian academy) and its sure u’ll find out that Kosova its NOT sebian, it has never been and of course it will never be! Have you ever heard about Dardania? They were illyrian tribes…part of Illyria!I think its time for the serbian nation to be free, free from war, free from their bloody history…free to look toward a better future 4 u and 4 your children! Live Balkans in peace!
Mr. Branko, Serbian people were, are, and always will be nationally the best in the World, considering LIES. Congradulations to you for that. And Congradulations to Kosova Albanians for the New Born Independent State Of Kosovo.
Congradulations for both.
More than four IIIyrian Entities compose Albania.
LABEATS, TAULANTS, ALBANS, ENKELEIS, DARASETS and KAONS.
All of them speaks Illyrian language but with different dialects. Three first has a very distinct Illyrian dialect named GEGE and the rest has another Illyrian dialect named TOSKE.
On 1912 they united in one single state and agreed to be named Eagle’s Land. SHQIPERIA.
The foreign “SKOLARS” named Albania based on the name of only one of the Entities.
This was not only Ignorance but also a big mistake of these “very educated Scholars“.
The situation then was so critical for SHQIPETARET, so they accepted any injustice and compromise. This was the big price they pay to gain the independence. Of course many other Illyrian entities was ignored. This has been done in purpose to use Illyrian territories as a trade merchandise to please slavics, which in return were used in two wars. The Slavics paid their price. They lost 56 million people 1908 – 1946. Illyrian paid bigger price. They were spread over 5 different states.
It’s about time to recognize the historical right of Kosova (Dardania) to have its destiny fulfilled-That is full independence. Kosova never was a Serbian province. It was there, since the times of birth of European civilization, a very distinct Dardanian/llyrian identity. Always populated by Dardanias who, although under constant pressure of forcefully migration by Serbian shovinism, Tito’s Yugoslavia & Milloshevic’s Serbia, still make up 92% of the population. They speak ilirian language with the dialect GEGE. Serbs always have been a minority there. We know that Serbs appeared in Balkans (then llyria) only by the 6th Century AD. They have always been a minority and ‘the story’ of Kosova being the Heartland of Serbia is just a pure Serbian nationalist fantasy. Facts Speak Louder Than Words and Serbian’s Lies Will Collapse by Themselves. Serbs always have been considered as oppressors there, not just by Albanian majority, but also by other ethnic groups too. Serbs just occupied Kosova during the rise of the Serbian nationalism early 20th century from Ottomans, who by then were loosing the Balkans after 500 years of occupation. Now Kosova should be Free!
To find the answer for the question “do you think Kosovo’s independence will strengthen separatist movements elsewhere”, please refer to:
http://www.acesofww2.com/germany/aces/Hartmann.htm
Erich Hartman – top ace of all the time. German Luftwaffe Bf 109 Pilot.
Near the end of WWII, in early May 1945, Hartmann, then Gruppenkommandeur of famous Jagdgeschwader 52, and his Commodore, Hermann Graf, ground crew, family members, and other civilians, who had joined the squadron, seeking protection approaching Russian army, moved west in direction of territory already occupied by US troops. On May 8th, 1945, the soldiers and civilians surrendered to US troops in the region between Bavaria (German province) and Czech border. But on May 17th, the US Army delivered all of these German troops and civilians to the Red Army. How did the Russian troops treat the civilians? They tortured, raped German woman, children at least 12 years old. Some woman were shot after the rapes. Others were not so lucky. A twelve year old girl whose mother had been raped and shoot being raped by several solders. She died from these acts soon afterward. Then more Russian came, and it began all over again. During the night, entire German families committed suicide with men killing their wives and daughters, then themselves. This is the way the slavics treat the human been, the innocent civilians. This is the way the Serbs treated innocent Croatian, Bosnian and Dardanian civilians. If any entity of human been will be treated like that, then they are in title to ask and gain the independence.
Adrian for the beginning ,stick Mr.Luftwaffe up your SS!!
Are you Nazi?
Do you KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE DIED from their hand?
http://www.holocaustchronicle.org/HolocaustAppendices.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II_casualties
There is holocaust and you have hear/say story of an
German pilot.Disgusting!
And regarding:
“This is the way the slavics treat the human been, the innocent civilians. This is the way the Serbs treated innocent Croatian, Bosnian and Dardanian civilians.”
it’s just plain ignorant.
You do realise that people kill people in war,that’s the effect of it!But there is other side also,for instance take a look at “Oluja”1995 in Croatia,
or tell us about imported jihad terror squads in BOsnia.
Croats were also killed in bosnia by “bosnians”,they also killed eachother…you can google if you want.
How do/did “your ” people treated humans in war? By
killing 10 raging kids having fun in a pond?Throwing flowers at them,smoking joints and laughing them to death?You KNOW better than that so don’t be so modest…please tell us of “your” techniques.
http://www.kosovo.net/skenderbeyss.html
Bare in mind that Albanians,or “Kosovars” Don’t own nothing,they’re being owned by NATO,USA killing machine under the protectorate curtain.
And they are ready to rock,man.
It’s better than playstation.
Kosovo is all NATO’s(US) business and nothing about freedom of a people.How else would they recognise independence when Albanians are conected to AlQueida and small terrorist groups still active in Europe.NOt to mention drug nest,trafficking and white slavery.Nothing is certain,the fight for freedom and truth is yet to come.Good luck with the “development” of new Albanian state.Strings of puppet mUSter will break.
Damage is,however,certain.
I’ll wait and see how will new “democratic country” treat non Albanians in Kosovo.I hear they are making cookies.
Well,something is cooking,for sure…
And don’t forget…Killing people prevents killing people.
LOL..what an absurd!!
old ‘merican red skin!
Iam not going to bother reading your cr*p.
You wrote: “Adrian for the beginning ,stick Mr.Luftwaffe up your SS!!”
You are one ignorant peasant worth not even replying to.
I have watched eastern European politics since the 90s when S Milosovic systematically destroyed the area. Watched as Women were raped!!! Watched as Islamic men and boys were murdered!!! Watched as the war in Kosovo destroyed thwe area and killed thousands!!! Slovakia and the Check Republic divided without a war. Go home Serbs and mind your business. You have done enough damage in the last 18 years. You were responsible for the start of WW1 . Russia said it would intervene if things got out of hand!!! Serbs go HOME and mind yur business!!!
This is proof that independent Kosovo will be democratic and protect minorities on it’s territory:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFPSMK6ftWs&feature=related
What I am most happy for is that the people of the world can finally see that a country can say its democratic but not mean it. In the case of the Serb leaders, Instead of looking towards the future and directing there people to fully understand what it is to be Democratic. They have ounce again surrendered to their tails of long ago and history only known through a one sided ideology. They have chosen to keep their people in the dark an to never show them the light. Kosova is going to be the E.U.’s child. An through their tutelage It will become every thing the E.U. and Europe stand for. Serbs have not lost kosovo but have gained a chance to move forward. The president of kosovo has made it clear that kosovo belongs to everyone an that we all have history here An that’s what make it unique. So to the Serbs and the Albanians who for centuries fought side by side and against each other. Know it was the corruption of the leaders who have divided you not each other. Say no to nationalism and yes to your future. The Balkan are home to all of you.
i dont understand how some people just talk when they dont now what the hell happend in kosovo but they compair Quberc to kosovo thats fucked up, we are talking about genocide here, thousand of albanian kids and women were massacre by serb specail forces, and you telling me Quebec is in the same situation come on poeple get your facts right
You’re right uscan.
Thanks for reply and a lesson learned.
It was unappropriate.
But you can still read that “cr*p”
(btw,how do you know it’s a cr*p?)
and prevent becoming ignorant peasant.
For the record you’ve insulted me and my “intelligence”.
But,c’mon,Hitler?! It’s really…transparent.
google for Wahhabis in Kosovo,
USA and Saudi Arabia link:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1974036/posts
Kosovo is soaked with blood and hatered.
It is time to stop it,but I think this was a way wrong way
to deal with it.There are decent people in both Albania and Serbia.you can claim different,but provide proofs and don’t close your eyes on things you don’t like to see.
The civilians will suffer the most.It’s all beneath the surface.
Ann,
Here’s two sentences,it has “independence” in it.
So I hope you realize what you are suggesting.
–On 28 June 1914, Gavrilo Princip, a Bosnian Serb student, shot and killed Archduke Franz Ferdinand, heir to the Austro-Hungarian throne, in Sarajevo. Princip was a member of Young Bosnia, a group whose aims included the unification of the South Slavs and independence from Austria-Hungary–get me now?
Try watching something different than CNN and siblings…
I can admit that I’m wrong,and I will when you prove me wrong.
openyoureyes,most beautiful written post here,
but I doubt it’s that simple to solve this.
Thank you.
well i must agree. the serbs lost Kosovo a long time ago. Ask the jews to liuve under hitler. congratulation kosovo/kosova and i will light a candle for you.
I hope that god gives you grace and your leaders wisdom to defend and stand up for minorities and economic progress.
Yes ,Serbs lost Kosovo after Nato bombing.
Due to Milosevic politics.Jews and Hitler analogy ,
really, isn’t relative to this.Israel doesn’t support Kosovo independence.
After all , Albanians (tomorrows Kosovars)
were collaborating with nazis in WW.
There’s a link in upper post.But that’s just past.
It’s easy to judge from distance,you should have been here.We will all light candles when bombs start exploding in our own neighborhood.
I couldn’t post my recent replies,
so look for Saudi Arabia and USA links…that will lead you to Kosovo.Bush is financing his (US nations) own doom.American are starting to see what’s going on.
Isn’t this unilateral decision clear breaking of international law? Tell me how is this possible and special?
Free people,yes…new imperial terror state,______?
Thank you.
Story of Albanian young engineer on Kosovo,
UCK(KLA),NATO,KFOR and Serbs.
http://www.tenc.net/interviews/albanian.htm
Please read,although you may dislike his opinion.
This is proof of rational ,healthy human being
and his survival from this madness.
Thank you.
Read,read…look,hear,sniff,sniff!!
Finish the puzzle later.
http://emperors-clothes.com/analysis/spin.htm
MOstly sad stories,there is much more info on this site.
If you have something else ,please post.
Contextualizing Hate:
The Hague Tribunal, the Clinton Administration and the Serbs
http://emperors-clothes.com/misc/kent.htm
Nightmare by Design: NATO’s Takeover of the Kosovo Town of Orahovac
http://emperors-clothes.com/misc/savethe.htm
The Women of Orahovac Answer the Colonel
http://emperors-clothes.com/interviews/trouw.htm
President of the Jewish Community in Priština
http://emperors-clothes.com/interviews/ceda.htm
The roots of Kosovo fascism
by George Thompson
http://emperors-clothes.com/articles/thompson/rootsof.htm
Concentration camps in Kosovo: The KLA Archipelago
http://globalresistance.com/news/reporter.htm
JUDGMENT!
http://emperors-clothes.com/news/mars.htm
How will you plead at your trial, Mr. Annan?
http://emperors-clothes.com/news/howwill.htm
The Cat is Out of the Bag
http://emperors-clothes.com/news/ciaaided.htm
thank you.
It is really scary when you read some of extremist ideas based on verbality and sick Nacionalizem.
History and historians know who is Albanian people and what are serbs.
I really think that this debate must not be on the past nacionalizem, because everyone know how serbs have killed albanian people, tourtured them for decades, building up systematic occupation and so on and on.
The Albanians are willing to forgive serbs for what they done for the sake of future ganeration to live a beter life in peace and prosperity, serbs are very ignorant (government), so who is to blame?? Serbian Government at least must say sorry to the Kosovars and accept full responsibility for what has happened, stop the extream rethoric to the people that they has been elected and accept with joy Kosova independence.
Jason
“jason”,
please shut up :)
you don’t know shit that happened there
and you are an albanian, i can tell by the way you talk
to Ada:
Who the hell are you to tell to entire world to shut up??? If u know something whats happened there u wouldn’t talk like this. But the aonly think that u know is what your leaders told u, u’re sooooo brainwashed
What about Serbs killed and expelled from Croatia
What about Serbs killed in Bosnia
What about Serbs killed in Kosovo for centuries
Does anyone ever mention this or maybe everyone is playing dumb.
Croatia is free of Serbs because they are all expelled
So Croatia has right to expell Serbs
Kosovo has right to be independent
but Serbia has no right to do anything not even defend herself.
I am sick of some people comments expecially when Croats are saying that they were victims in Croatia
Everyone knows that Croats are Fascists have been and always will be.
And only uneducated fool’s and people who only read newspapers but nothing else could say that Kosovo doesn’t belong to Serbia
Sooner or later it will be our again even if we loose everything one day we will get it back.
This is not the first time for Serbs to loose their land, but the truth will come out sooner or later.
If only Croat,Bosnian’s and Albanians are victims what the hell are Serbian refugees doing in Serbia and in all other parts of the world.
We are not everywhere because we want to be here we are everywhere around the world because most of us are refugees expelled from the parts of the country where we were born and where our great grandfathers were born.
Albanians you can smile now but it won’t last for too long.
The president of so-called independent Kosovo is a criminal. And Albanians had more rights then SErbs, they had schools in their own language and too much democracy in SErbia and that’s why now they are taking advantage of Serbia by declaring independence.
If SErbian government was a little bit smarter they would’t give them so much freedom.
HAving too much freedom made them even worse and hungry for someone else’s land.
And stupid Milosevic he should’f killed them all but he was so stupid he gave them too much freedom and later they accused him of genocide. How come there are so many Albanians in Kosovo if they were all killed.
That was just the worst propaganda I have ever heard in my life. SErbs were the ones who were killed centuries and centuries by Albanian terrorists and today America calls Albanian terrorists “Kosovo Liberation Army” how sarcastic is this. This is sad.
America doesn’t care about SErbs or Albanians they just care for bloody money and their own interests to control Europe. How come in another part of the world they fighting with terrorists but in Kosovo they are supporting terrorists. That is the proof that they just care for money hahahahahahhaha I feel sorry for Albanians they think that America loves them
Elena,take it easy.I reacted the same way,but to no avail.
I know what you’re talking about ’cause I am a prisoner of if it too.Patience.This is just a blog.I wouldn’t like it any other way.I would love to see just one person who has changed
it’s mind, or just to see them say that this could be the truth.
However Serbian government was never particularly smart,and
every citizen ,no matter what confession or nationality he is,should have it’s freedom.Killing all Albanians would have solved nothing.You don’t mean that?Milosevic was an autocrat and “together” with NATO (and the UCK puppetry) destroyed already torn Serbia (or YU).
If I can say indirectly?
It’s a sad century for Serbian people.But time is changing and world keeps on turning.
Jason,you didn’t read those articles.You want to debate on this ,yet you don’t have anything to back up your statements. you speak of Albanians yet not of Kosovars…who are they then?Whay it’s called Kosovo and not North Albania?Isn’t Albania enough for Albanians?Serbs occupying Serbia(Yugoslavia)?Oh,please.
Regarding better life I have this funny one which says:
The grass is always greener on the “other” side.
I would like to meet those historians to tell
of the another history of Serbian and Albanian people.
I’ll not mention other minorities,they’re not in question,at the moment.Sorry minorities ;)
Provide links or references and I’ll be glad to read and analyze them.Please no BBC and CNN.
They have modern technology (red telephone line)
and a wicked imagination.I admire the professional spirit.
Here is what ,non-mentioned
(mostly US citizens,I think) nations, say of Kosovo(a)-
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/search?m=all;o=time;s=kosovo
You don’t have to be a rocket scientist to see that something is wrong.Otherwise the whole world would applaud to new born free nation of…cough..cough…Kosovars.Excuse me.
Even Serbs would,I mean why not? They will take care of their citizens and cultural legacy.They will bloom (economically and politically) and prosper.
But what about NATO?
Who gave ‘em the right to deal the justice?
It’s Saudis!The big brothers of fat paychecks.
Bush has to return the favor for his adventures.
And ,of course, exploit the land while he’s still there.BTW,return him his wristwatch.
The man can’t tell it’s five to twelwe.
What’s your argument?
Freeeee…so proclaimed.
Ask yourself if freedom is to have all these military bases around you,if you’re even stationed in Kosovo.
Yes,they will stay there.No,not the Serbs and Romi and Jews,
fellow Americans,Germans,Duch..and those traitor French.
No,it’s not a pogo stick,it’s a US street sweeper.Go play!
Yes,yes it’s somebodys hand.Oh those restless childish games!
Freedom will come to those who can recognize it.
Patience is all that is left now.Or we will fade.
Cheers!
Born to be wild-
http://www.albania.de/alb/index.php?p=379
“The Snake”-
http://www.savekosovo.org/default.asp?p=6&leader=3
Hashim Tachi’s(you got it!the Snake)confession-
http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a38c606aa189b.htm
The Oil factor in Kosovo independence (hmmm …)-
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1976946/posts
I don’t know if you’ve read it following the upper links ,so I’d though to post it anyways:
(NOTE-it’s Kosovo,not Kosova)
“The Kosovo-Albanians have played us like a Stradivarius. We have subsidized and indirectly supported their violent campaign for an ethnically pure and independent Kosovo.We have never blamed them for being the perpetrators of the violence in the early ‘90s and we continue to portray them as the designated victim today in spite of evidence to the contrary. When they achieve independence with the help of our tax dollars combined with those of bin Laden and al-Qaeda, just consider the message of encouragement this sends to other terrorist-supported independence movements around the world. Funny how we just keep digging the hole deeper!”—Maj-Gen. Lewis MacKenzie
—and always popular links to THE GREAT PUZZLE–
Context of ‘After 1994-1999:
CIA and Bin Laden Train KLA in Albania’
http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/context.jsp?item=complete_911_timeline_2861#complete_911_timeline_2861
One for you Freeee-
http://hannah.smith-family.com/archive/000959.html
Just to pass the time…. Let’s Kick Some Putin Ass
http://www.brusselsjournal.com/node/2997
9/11,for no particular reason-
http://www.rense.com/general36/hoax.htm
Hi
The freedom of speach and thoughts is fondamental in a democratic society, however thats take some time to understand for newly democratic society, where the shadow of repressions and restriction goes slowly away.
I think that rather than arguing who are serbs and who are kosovars, look at the reality, the majority of Worlds democratic states have recognised the kosova as a Independent State.
We in the U S respect others, its a debate where we all expose our thoughts.
Jason
Jason
I think that Kosova with merit gained indepedence from serbia.
Jason
Jason,ok thanks.I agree.
On exactly what did you based your opinion?
I know what US democracy is like.
Believe me,first two syllables are just
a perfidious waste of space.Now I don’t mean disrespect
to all the nice people in US.I think you can be great and admired nation,but only thing US has now
is veneration(read dread).
But it’s not too late to redeem.
I mean disrespect to government and their president(s).
I mean disrespect to secret services.
I mean disrespect to world conquering urges and beliefs.
The man who is willing to sacrifice his own people for his own cause(9/11 in your case)doesn’t deserve respect.He deserves punishment.I will mention Milosevic and Clinton and Bush.
While Serbs were punished for the rotten politics of their former leader,civilians didn’t deserve to die.Bridges didn’t have to be nuked.Children don’t deserve to eat the Uranium.Chinese embassy didn’t have to go.And so on…This is NOT respect!
Does this mean that you would support the destruction of your people because Bush(Clinton) did the lousy job?
Which they did.Iraq liberation from Iraqis?Really?
Could you ever forgive the one who degenerated all the generations yet to come and move on?
The one who hates you just because you believe in something else.That’s them.
This lesson is slow to learn, but while your masters
go to their conquests around the world , all I can see
that great American nation and democracy that they deliver are not what the people strive for.
I see stars and stripes burning ,often.
Americans are dying for nothing.For nothing.
It’s a power greed erection and it will drop.
Thanks
IF the majority of Worlds democratic states did have recognized the Kosovo as a Independent State,it doesn’t mean they are right.
Same applies to Kosovo’s Albanian majority.
They are breaking the international law and getting away with it.It a farce!
Well dear friends (including the ones that will curse at me), like it or not Kosovo is a country recogized by the same main powers that gave it to Serbia in 1913. You will find this fact in the library of Florence, in Vatican (i have been lucky to personaly read) and other reputable institutions that maintain solid facts about history. Just Google Illyrians, how old they are and look at their decestors. Now type Sllavs and look at the date they came down to the ballkans. As easy as that. You will, however, find the opposite in serbian schools, also somwhere in Seiberia and lately as part of the great Chinese educational system. The younger serbs need to open their eyes and look forward to becoming part of a civilized EU. There is no Rusia left to support your territorial claims. In 1999 Tnoy Blair said: “We are simply correcting a mistake/injustice that our ancestors did to the Albanian people”.. USA is not doing this to show muscle. It has no economical interest in Kosovo, however being the current superpower of our planet, it has the moral duty to control/supervise issues on earth. I heard serbia has initiated a international lawsuit against USA, UK, Germany and France. I read about it and I started thinking, who will be the judge? Than it immediately occured to me that probably an honest Russian or Chinese judge would do. After all they do know about civil rights, don’t they ;). Again my serbian friends (including the ones that will curse at me) its time to let go of the motherly anger, educate yourself with GLOBAL literature and live in peace. Aim at bocoming part of EU, forget about the Russian dying beast, and you will not be disappointed.
Viva la democr(n)azi!
Albania - Sex Slaves(hey! ABC-the democrats!)
http://www.abc.net.au/foreign/stories/s361850.htm
TRAFFICKING IN WOMEN REACHES NEW HEIGHTS IN EUROPE
http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a3ad2b4951392.htm
Infiltrating Europe’s shameful trade in human beings
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3071977/
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3071973/
Kosovo-Metohija Concerns Shared by Legal Experts, Diplomats and Officials Around the World
http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://emperors-clothes.com/analysis/muja-zoom.jpg&imgrefurl=http://byzantinesacredart.com/blog/2007/03/&h=1247&w=1889&sz=298&hl=en&start=9&um=1&tbnid=-jDtWg4_k0OLFM:&tbnh=99&tbnw=150&prev=/images%3Fq%3DKLA%2Bslaughter%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DN
What do you know about civil,human rights,when such
matter never intrigued you?
Also,I want to know more about Great Albanian education system.Please.
US millitary is stretched to thin,they’re sheeps in wolf clothing.I doubt that anyone would risk another WW.
Cheers!
…hahaha just saw (Viet Won) the spam filter word.
Alb ,
Being superficial doesn’t really cut through.
And I’m not your friend,I’m just letters and sentences.
I posted many links and you could really read them.
Here we go again:
Blair Implicated In Pedophile Cover-Up Scandal?
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/april2007/050407blair.htm
Iraq: the new cover-up
http://www.newstatesman.com/200611130062
Chronology of American State Terrorism
http://www.intellnet.org/resources/american_terrorism/ChronologyofTerror.html
A Superpower Defeated
http://www.lewrockwell.com/rockwell/superpower-defeated.html
To Kill A Nation: The Attack on Yugoslavia
http://www.intellnet.org/resources/american_terrorism/ToKillANation.html
Nato, master of the world
http://mondediplo.com/1999/05/02chomsky
For such a well spoken and open minded person you don’t have an excuse to become one of ignorance and vain.
I live here and know what US business is all about.
Thanks.
Only 40 Serbs,mostly elderly people,
are left to)live in Pristina ,today.
That’s freedom and grasp of democracy in action.
I wander why GLOBAL mass-media doesn’t speak of this?
hmm…weird.
Alb ,
Being superficial doesn’t really cut through.
And I’m not your friend,I’m just letters and sentences.
I posted many links and you could really read them.
Here we go again:
Blair Implicated In Pedophile Cover-Up Scandal?
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/april2007/050407blair.htm
Iraq: the new cover-up
http://www.newstatesman.com/200611130062
Chronology of American State Terrorism
http://www.intellnet.org/resources/american_terrorism/ChronologyofTerror.html
A Superpower Defeated
http://www.lewrockwell.com/rockwell/superpower-defeated.html
To Kill A Nation: The Attack on Yugoslavia
http://www.intellnet.org/resources/american_terrorism/ToKillANation.html
Nato, master of the world
http://mondediplo.com/1999/05/02chomsky
For such a well spoken and open minded person you don’t have an excuse to become one of ignorance and vain.
I live here and know what US business is all about.
Thanks.
Cro ~ I live here too and to be honest I wasn’t talking about the Albanian educational system but about the one I was exposed to, the American one, the one you seem to lack. Now instead of looking at bias articles written by Sllavic Nazis, please go back to a more general research and Google what was mentioned above. As far as civil rights, I do know, as I was born in the most perfect democratic society in the world. Now go back to my initial comment and re-read some of the main points as your response was not targeting the main point of my comment but rather a few supporting points of it. Of course you can not/would not be my friend. Again Kosovo is a country like it or not. You would understand what I am talking about since you know US business. Cheers
Of course Alb.
God bless America!
Take good care of minorities and justice there.
Have a nice life.
We could be friends after all (these few posts);)
cheers!
It’s about time to recognize the historical right of Kosova (Dardania) to have its destiny fulfilled-That is full independence. Kosova never was a Serbian province. It was there, since the times of birth of European civilization, a very distinct Dardanian/llyrian identity. Always populated by Dardanias who, although under constant pressure of forcefully migration by Serbian shovinism, Tito’s Yugoslavia & Milloshevic’s Serbia, still make up 92% of the population. They speak ilirian language with the dialect GEGE. Serbs always have been a minority there. We know that Serbs appeared in Balkans (then llyria) only by the 6th Century AD, and they speak a language more similar to Ukrainian then Russian. They have always been a minority and ‘the story’ of Kosova being the Heartland of Serbia is just a pure Serbian nationalist fantasy. Facts Speak Louder Than Words and Serbian’s Lies Will Collapse by Themselves. Serbs always have been considered as oppressors there, not just by Albanian majority, but also by other ethnic groups too. Serbs just occupied Kosova during the rise of the Serbian nationalism early 20th century from Ottomans, who by then were loosing the Balkans after 500 years of occupation. The borders of Kosova are well established and recognized. Now Kosova should be Free! http://www.hartford-hwp.com/archives/62/094.html
I can’t comprehend how a minority of 7% of the population, pretend to take off the land, the language, culture and the life of the rest of Kosova. Kosovars have the right to live free and independent in their land where they are born, generation after generation, live and will die.
bluerose799: You just gave a wonderful description of history and facts. Thank you!
Welldone, Bluerose799
Thats how all who really wont to partisipate on this issue with facts and historic arguments to tell the world that the Kosovars are on their land and serbs came as occupators.
I do not appriciate why the Historians of Kosova are not raising their voice for the truth.
If you see the argument of all serbs with lies and without concious they are trying to tell the International community that Kosova is the heart of serbia!!!!.
Again welldone BLUEROSE799, IMAGINE THAT SERBS WITH LIES ARE TRYING TO INTERPRET THE HISTORY AS THEY WISH,
WHERE ARE THE ALBANIANS???.
FOR GOD SICK AT LEAST WITH HISTORIC FACTS EVERY DAY TELL THE WORLD THE TRUTH.
JASON
After reading all of your posts, as someone that has lived through two wars, “oluja” in 1995 and nato bombing, during my teenage years, your ignorance or just lack of knowledge is surreal and agonizing to me. You are right, FACTS SPEAK LOUDER THAN WORDS, and there is a lot I can write but just consider this. In my hometown Benkovac which is situated in current Croatia there was 98% serbian population. We were given 12 hours to evacuate the town along with the whole Krajina region and mostly the elderly and everyone else that refused to leave ware “ethnically clensed” (to put it nicely). Who was there to stop this injustice? Ofcourse the US lead media cartel piched it differently. Don’t jump to quick to conclusions and read up or ask at places like this instead of being brainwashed.